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Nope, Reddit currently has a bunch of their subreddits private. And if the Apollo dev gets paid, then he can come up with something to make the blackout go away

by kats 3y ago

Nope, Reddit currently has a bunch of their subreddits private. And if the Apollo dev gets paid, then he can come up with something to make the blackout go away. That's the leverage he has to ask for money. It's what he implied in the call he had recorded, and he keeps indicating he's open to an offer. If reddit goes back to normal before he has an offer then that's when he has no leverage anymore.

Timon3 3y ago
> Nope, Reddit currently has a bunch of their subreddits private. And if the Apollo dev gets paid, then he can come up with something to make the blackout go away. Can you explain what that could be? How can this one developer control the moderators and users of thousands of subreddits? Could it be that people are choosing to support the Apollo dev, and Reddit has all the power to stop the blackout... by giving the people what they want?
dale_glass 3y ago
Uh, no, he can't. He's a dev of a well liked application. That's all. He's not the head of some sort of shadowy cabal that decides when and how the blackout happens. Certainly, he could send a public message and say "I'm happy now, please stop guys". But it's up to them to listen to that or not.
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willis936 3y ago
Selig is not tsar. He says his piece then people pick sides and vote with their feet. Users support Selig and despise Reddit's user-hostile actions. As they say "oh no, it's the consequences of my actions".
chromakode 3y ago
There are many other apps affected by the API pricing which announced they'd shut down: Sync, Relay, Reddit is Fun, etc. Reddit cutting one (or five) sweetheart deals is unlikely to make this go away at this point, since the uproar is about the API pricing and its rollout.
leokennis 3y ago
Reddit can very easily one sidedly reopen these subreddits, “fire” the mods, do whatever they want. It’s their platform and they have full admin powers over everything. The Reddit users are literally using the only miniature tool to influence Reddit that is at their disposal: look elsewhere.
chomp 3y ago
You are assuming that him getting paid: 1.) alleviates all concerns of the other 3rd party apps 2.) alleviates bot concerns, moderator concerns, a11y concerns 3.) he has magic words that can whisk away the above 4.) that he has any leverage in the first place It’s also bordering on willful ignorance to call that conversation blackmail.
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by kats 3y ago

Timon3 3y ago

> Nope, Reddit currently has a bunch of their subreddits private. And if the Apollo dev gets paid, then he can come up with something to make the blackout go away. Can you explain what that could be? How can this one developer control the moderators and users of thousands of subreddits? Could it be that people are choosing to support the Apollo dev, and Reddit has all the power to stop the blackout... by giving the people what they want?

dale_glass 3y ago

Uh, no, he can't. He's a dev of a well liked application. That's all. He's not the head of some sort of shadowy cabal that decides when and how the blackout happens. Certainly, he could send a public message and say "I'm happy now, please stop guys". But it's up to them to listen to that or not.

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willis936 3y ago

Selig is not tsar. He says his piece then people pick sides and vote with their feet. Users support Selig and despise Reddit's user-hostile actions. As they say "oh no, it's the consequences of my actions".

chromakode 3y ago

There are many other apps affected by the API pricing which announced they'd shut down: Sync, Relay, Reddit is Fun, etc. Reddit cutting one (or five) sweetheart deals is unlikely to make this go away at this point, since the uproar is about the API pricing and its rollout.

leokennis 3y ago

Reddit can very easily one sidedly reopen these subreddits, “fire” the mods, do whatever they want. It’s their platform and they have full admin powers over everything. The Reddit users are literally using the only miniature tool to influence Reddit that is at their disposal: look elsewhere.

chomp 3y ago

You are assuming that him getting paid: 1.) alleviates all concerns of the other 3rd party apps 2.) alleviates bot concerns, moderator concerns, a11y concerns 3.) he has magic words that can whisk away the above 4.) that he has any leverage in the first place It’s also bordering on willful ignorance to call that conversation blackmail.

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