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From what I can tell, it’s not the users that revolted. It’s their unpaid moderator workforce striking in solidarity with the workers that used Apollo to improv

From what I can tell, it’s not the users that revolted. It’s their unpaid moderator workforce striking in solidarity with the workers that used Apollo to improve their experience. I’m very curious to see what the resolution will be from Reddit’s side, but heading toward IPO while you’ve got a huge chunk of unpaid labor that makes your site work striking can’t be good for the strike price. The workers have the company over a barrel from what I can see.

none_to_remain 3y ago
The users are subject to a lockout as management disputes with the executives.
more_corn 3y ago
Users who use 3rd party apps are part of the equation.
VWWHFSfQ 3y ago
I'm seeing a lot of similarities between Reddit benefiting greatly from their unpaid moderators and Apollo benefiting from them the same. As well as not even having to pay Reddit at all. Did Apollo ever even have to pay for anything whatsoever? Not really that surprising that business went away when the free lunch was over
- joshstrange 3y ago
  Reddit encouraged building on their API for over a decade. Reddit told Christian in January that there would be no big changes to the API this year if not for multiple years. Reddit told developers it had no plans to charge for it's API. To call it a "free lunch" is pretty disrespectful IMHO, Christian worked hard on Apollo and it blows away the official app. Reddit benefits from 3rd party apps. Period. They don't want to admit that and they might not benefit as much as from 1st party but those users interact, create content, moderate subs, and more. Reddit went from "no charge, use the API" to "pay us a LOT of money and you have <30 days" with zero wiggle room.
- Atheros 3y ago
  I don't think that Apollo's lunch was free. Apollo gave Reddit free content, free content reviews (voting) that can be used for sorting, and free moderation, and all Reddit had to do was handle anti-bot mechanisms and host a centralized database. Maybe Reddit should have been paying Apollo. If the roles were reversed and there were multiple database backends that people could choose from and Apollo was the only available front-end, it would be Apollo that could demand money from Reddit.
ahahahahah 3y ago
> It’s their unpaid moderator workforce striking in solidarity It's a small subset of their moderator workforce. Most of them are, in solidarity I guess, continuing on as normal.
riskable 3y ago
Users won't revolt until the 3rd party apps stop working. Basically, on June 30th we'll see a ton of new users trying out new sites.
SkyPuncher 3y ago
I deleted my account last week. Based on the occasional check-ins, I actually think Reddit has more control over large subs than most people think. Despite a protesting, there's still enough content being made. Much of it with high comment engagement. I feel like there's a chance that Reddit comes out from this proving that they're actually already moderating a bunch of content and volunteer mods have no leverage.

none_to_remain 3y ago

The users are subject to a lockout as management disputes with the executives.

more_corn 3y ago

Users who use 3rd party apps are part of the equation.

VWWHFSfQ 3y ago

I'm seeing a lot of similarities between Reddit benefiting greatly from their unpaid moderators and Apollo benefiting from them the same. As well as not even having to pay Reddit at all. Did Apollo ever even have to pay for anything whatsoever? Not really that surprising that business went away when the free lunch was over

joshstrange 3y ago
Reddit encouraged building on their API for over a decade. Reddit told Christian in January that there would be no big changes to the API this year if not for multiple years. Reddit told developers it had no plans to charge for it's API. To call it a "free lunch" is pretty disrespectful IMHO, Christian worked hard on Apollo and it blows away the official app. Reddit benefits from 3rd party apps. Period. They don't want to admit that and they might not benefit as much as from 1st party but those users interact, create content, moderate subs, and more. Reddit went from "no charge, use the API" to "pay us a LOT of money and you have <30 days" with zero wiggle room.
Atheros 3y ago
I don't think that Apollo's lunch was free. Apollo gave Reddit free content, free content reviews (voting) that can be used for sorting, and free moderation, and all Reddit had to do was handle anti-bot mechanisms and host a centralized database. Maybe Reddit should have been paying Apollo. If the roles were reversed and there were multiple database backends that people could choose from and Apollo was the only available front-end, it would be Apollo that could demand money from Reddit.

ahahahahah 3y ago

> It’s their unpaid moderator workforce striking in solidarity It's a small subset of their moderator workforce. Most of them are, in solidarity I guess, continuing on as normal.

riskable 3y ago

Users won't revolt until the 3rd party apps stop working. Basically, on June 30th we'll see a ton of new users trying out new sites.

SkyPuncher 3y ago

I deleted my account last week. Based on the occasional check-ins, I actually think Reddit has more control over large subs than most people think. Despite a protesting, there's still enough content being made. Much of it with high comment engagement. I feel like there's a chance that Reddit comes out from this proving that they're actually already moderating a bunch of content and volunteer mods have no leverage.