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I've been there a few times in the past few years, and while there are plenty of nice spots in the city, the parts that _aren't_ nice are hell on earth. I've be

I've been there a few times in the past few years, and while there are plenty of nice spots in the city, the parts that _aren't_ nice are hell on earth. I've been in lots of dangerous cities but SF is on another level with the amount of drug use and mental illness. It seems to be more common on west coast cities because I've seen similar things in Portland, Seattle, and even Vancouver.

pstuart 3y ago
The west coast is the dumping grounds for the mentally ill in other states. It deserves attention and resolution at a federal level. We need to institutionalize (not jail) these people, with the goal of helping to heal them with the expectation that some people are broken beyond repair.
eBombzor 3y ago
What is it with these coastal cities I truly wonder. Just better weather to be homeless?
- TMWNN 3y ago
  >What is it with these coastal cities I truly wonder. Just better weather to be homeless? The city of San Francisco spends $70,000 annually per homeless person![0] The homeless there are homeless because severe mental and addiction issues cause them to reject help, not because resources aren't available. And no, weather is not the most important reason for why so many homeless come here. If it were, San Diego would have a worse homeless problem than San Francisco. The most important difference is that the city of San Diego spends one third as much as San Francisco per homeless person. ($46.8 million in city spending[1] for an estimated 1900 homeless.[2]) San Francisco has an enormous homeless-industrial complex that uses every virtue-signaling, heart-tugging propaganda tool at its disposal to increase the flow of money thrown into its bottomless maw, despite no metric ever improving one bit whatsoever. [0] <https://abc7news.com/sf-homeless-plan-housing-all-san-francisco-supervisor-rafael-mandelman/12760671/ https://abc7news.com/sf-homeless-plan-housing-all-san-franci...> [1] <https://www.lajollalight.com/news/story/2023-04-15/san-diego-mayors-proposed-budget-includes-millions-more-to-address-homelessness-and-streets https://www.lajollalight.com/news/story/2023-04-15/san-diego...> [2] <https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2023-02-07/downtown-homeless-population-reaches-another-high https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2023-02-07/downtown...> [3] [3] The count is only of the homeless in downtown San Diego. While presumably most homeless San Diegans are there, just as there are very few San Franciscans living on the sidewalk in Pac Heights, the point is that a larger number would mean that much less spending per homeless person in the city as a whole, and that much more glaring a discrepancy between the two cities.

pstuart 3y ago

The west coast is the dumping grounds for the mentally ill in other states. It deserves attention and resolution at a federal level. We need to institutionalize (not jail) these people, with the goal of helping to heal them with the expectation that some people are broken beyond repair.

eBombzor 3y ago

What is it with these coastal cities I truly wonder. Just better weather to be homeless?

TMWNN 3y ago
>What is it with these coastal cities I truly wonder. Just better weather to be homeless? The city of San Francisco spends $70,000 annually per homeless person![0] The homeless there are homeless because severe mental and addiction issues cause them to reject help, not because resources aren't available. And no, weather is not the most important reason for why so many homeless come here. If it were, San Diego would have a worse homeless problem than San Francisco. The most important difference is that the city of San Diego spends one third as much as San Francisco per homeless person. ($46.8 million in city spending[1] for an estimated 1900 homeless.[2]) San Francisco has an enormous homeless-industrial complex that uses every virtue-signaling, heart-tugging propaganda tool at its disposal to increase the flow of money thrown into its bottomless maw, despite no metric ever improving one bit whatsoever. [0] <https://abc7news.com/sf-homeless-plan-housing-all-san-francisco-supervisor-rafael-mandelman/12760671/ https://abc7news.com/sf-homeless-plan-housing-all-san-franci...> [1] <https://www.lajollalight.com/news/story/2023-04-15/san-diego-mayors-proposed-budget-includes-millions-more-to-address-homelessness-and-streets https://www.lajollalight.com/news/story/2023-04-15/san-diego...> [2] <https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2023-02-07/downtown-homeless-population-reaches-another-high https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2023-02-07/downtown...> [3] [3] The count is only of the homeless in downtown San Diego. While presumably most homeless San Diegans are there, just as there are very few San Franciscans living on the sidewalk in Pac Heights, the point is that a larger number would mean that much less spending per homeless person in the city as a whole, and that much more glaring a discrepancy between the two cities.