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> In fact, most liberal democracies are at odds with Russia, Iran, China What's a liberal democracy? Oh you mean our vassals are at odds with the countries we

> In fact, most liberal democracies are at odds with Russia, Iran, China What's a liberal democracy? Oh you mean our vassals are at odds with the countries we are at odds with? I find that odd. What is the "liberal democracies" problem with russia, iran, china and the mexican cartels. Take ireland for example. What's their beef with russia, iran, china and the mexican cartels? Oh they have no beef. It's just that they have to follow orders. We say jump and they say how high. Maybe one day, these liberal democracies will be liberated and regain their sovereignty. Hey maybe russia, iran, china and the mexican cartels can help liberate them. The thing about propaganda is how silly it gets.

2OEH8eoCRo0 3y ago
It's extremely insulting to call friends and allies vassals.
- oilchange 3y ago
  The truth hurts. An influential and prominent bureaucrat once said america has no friends or enemies, just interests. Think about it. Isn't it more insulting to call countries you firebombed and nuked "friends and allies". Imagine if china firebombed germany and currently occupies it. Would we not laugh if china called germany their friend and ally? Imagine if russia nuked japan and occupied it. Would we call them besties for life? Edit: You still haven't answered what ireland's problem with iran is? What's ireland's problem with russia and china. And what issues do they have with the mexicans.
  - 2OEH8eoCRo0 3y ago
    > america has no friends or enemies, just interests. Who said that and where and when did they say it?
- guerrilla 3y ago
  I think it's extremely insulting to call vassals "friends and allies."
- FormerBandmate 3y ago
  It's how Russia sees the world, which is why the Soviet Union failed. Really impeded trade relations in the eastern bloc
FormerBandmate 3y ago
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- inconceivable 3y ago
  > China has concentration camps why isn't the west or the islamic world doing anything about this? isn't the forever war in the middle east over by now? why can't we redeploy some of those military assets to invade china next? certainly we can get support from saudi and israel and pakistan and the UK to support us, right?
  - FormerBandmate 3y ago
    China is really big and has nukes
    - inconceivable 3y ago
      yeah, so in other words, might makes right in the world that the US has configured.
      - Anon_Forever 3y ago
        >yeah, so in other words, might makes right in the world that the US has configured. yeah, so in other words, might makes right in the world that humans have configured. FTFY. Violence is the supreme authority that all other authority derives from.
      - tastyfreeze 3y ago
        If anything that has been the example the US has set for the rest of the world by "spreading democracy" through regime change and war. The correct way to spread democracy is to be a shining example of a free society by being prosperous without killing people that have done you no harm.
- oilchange 3y ago
  > Russia is waging a war of conquest So then the liberal democracies were against the US when we invaded iraq? Are they against the occupation of germany, japan, korea, italy, etc? Or is it not conquest when we do it? > China has concentration camps "Concentration camps". Yes and liberal democracies have torture chambers all over the world. Strange. Did they disband these "concentration camps"? Have the ugyhers been genocided already? Why the complete radio silence on the "genocide" of the century? Because it turned out to be a lie and propaganda? Wasn't it 3 million died in the camps. Then it was 300K. Then 300. Then 3. Then 0. Now do you want to discuss palestine? Or do muslims in palestine not matter? > Iran brutally oppresses women No they don't. Just because they have their own cultural values doesn't mean they oppress women. No more than saudi arabia does. You support diversity right? > The US and its allies are free democracies where people vote. So is russia, iran, venezuela, etc... > Spare us this sophomore in college "both sides are the same" nonsense No. One side is clearly worse - the "liberal democracies". Who invaded more muslim countries and destroyed more muslim lives? Liberal democracies or china, russia, iran, mexican cartels? Which country is more oppressive to women? Saudi arabia ( liberal democracies favorite muslim country ) or iran? Which country has waged more wars of conquest? Liberal democracies or russia, china, iran, mexican cartels? By your own criteria, the liberal democracies are the worst.
amitrip 3y ago
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2OEH8eoCRo0 3y ago

It's extremely insulting to call friends and allies vassals.

oilchange 3y ago
The truth hurts. An influential and prominent bureaucrat once said america has no friends or enemies, just interests. Think about it. Isn't it more insulting to call countries you firebombed and nuked "friends and allies". Imagine if china firebombed germany and currently occupies it. Would we not laugh if china called germany their friend and ally? Imagine if russia nuked japan and occupied it. Would we call them besties for life? Edit: You still haven't answered what ireland's problem with iran is? What's ireland's problem with russia and china. And what issues do they have with the mexicans.
- 2OEH8eoCRo0 3y ago
  > america has no friends or enemies, just interests. Who said that and where and when did they say it?
guerrilla 3y ago
I think it's extremely insulting to call vassals "friends and allies."
FormerBandmate 3y ago
It's how Russia sees the world, which is why the Soviet Union failed. Really impeded trade relations in the eastern bloc

FormerBandmate 3y ago

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inconceivable 3y ago
> China has concentration camps why isn't the west or the islamic world doing anything about this? isn't the forever war in the middle east over by now? why can't we redeploy some of those military assets to invade china next? certainly we can get support from saudi and israel and pakistan and the UK to support us, right?
- FormerBandmate 3y ago
  China is really big and has nukes
  - inconceivable 3y ago
    yeah, so in other words, might makes right in the world that the US has configured.
    - Anon_Forever 3y ago
      >yeah, so in other words, might makes right in the world that the US has configured. yeah, so in other words, might makes right in the world that humans have configured. FTFY. Violence is the supreme authority that all other authority derives from.
    - tastyfreeze 3y ago
      If anything that has been the example the US has set for the rest of the world by "spreading democracy" through regime change and war. The correct way to spread democracy is to be a shining example of a free society by being prosperous without killing people that have done you no harm.
oilchange 3y ago
> Russia is waging a war of conquest So then the liberal democracies were against the US when we invaded iraq? Are they against the occupation of germany, japan, korea, italy, etc? Or is it not conquest when we do it? > China has concentration camps "Concentration camps". Yes and liberal democracies have torture chambers all over the world. Strange. Did they disband these "concentration camps"? Have the ugyhers been genocided already? Why the complete radio silence on the "genocide" of the century? Because it turned out to be a lie and propaganda? Wasn't it 3 million died in the camps. Then it was 300K. Then 300. Then 3. Then 0. Now do you want to discuss palestine? Or do muslims in palestine not matter? > Iran brutally oppresses women No they don't. Just because they have their own cultural values doesn't mean they oppress women. No more than saudi arabia does. You support diversity right? > The US and its allies are free democracies where people vote. So is russia, iran, venezuela, etc... > Spare us this sophomore in college "both sides are the same" nonsense No. One side is clearly worse - the "liberal democracies". Who invaded more muslim countries and destroyed more muslim lives? Liberal democracies or china, russia, iran, mexican cartels? Which country is more oppressive to women? Saudi arabia ( liberal democracies favorite muslim country ) or iran? Which country has waged more wars of conquest? Liberal democracies or russia, china, iran, mexican cartels? By your own criteria, the liberal democracies are the worst.

amitrip 3y ago

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