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> Our upvotes, likes, shares, and retweets need to be reserved for only those things which truly deserve to be amplified, not just because we personally appreci

by RegW 3y ago

> Our upvotes, likes, shares, and retweets need to be reserved for only those things which truly deserve to be amplified, not just because we personally appreciate them, but because they’re of exceptional quality. Sounds great, but with all the morons reacting prolifically to every piece of trash, will my one carefully allotted upvote be valued? I like the idea of Quadratic Voting: https://www.economist.com/interactive/2021/12/18/quadratic-voting https://www.economist.com/interactive/2021/12/18/quadratic-v...

DrScientist 3y ago
Interesting. When I looked at their example poll - what was interesting was I started to think tactically - as votes now cost - I'm much more interested in not wasting votes on issues that aren't going to be closely fought. ie Even if I had strong feelings about topic X - should I vote if I already can guess the outcome of the vote - surely smarter to avoid wasting that vote and focus on something that's likely to be closely contested? So you end up with a secondary market in information about how the vote is or is likely to go. Ideally, as a user, what I'd like is the ability see the existing state of all the polls, and be able to dynamically adjust my vote based on the current voting state. If the platform doesn't do that - then any differential in information about how the votes might go creates an unfair voting dynamic - ie the voting outcome isn't just about how much you care..... If you map that back to say hackernews threads and voting - would people hold off voting, hoping somebody else spends their vote first - leading to less interaction. In the end - isn't the quality of votes simply a reflection of the quality of the electorate?
- bee_rider 3y ago
  Maybe we can come up with a scheme to combine all our votes into a giant finite state machine…
orzig 3y ago
Strong +1 (squared) to the quadratic voting suggestion. But I don’t think that it could be implemented in any sizable existing community, it is just too abstract of a benefit. But the discussion around SMOL Webb communities, feels applicable here, the type of person that would get excited about a quadratic coding community is self selected to think more deeply and abstractly in the first place. Plenty of these people exist, but there has not been a Schelling point for them. (definitely correct me if I’m wrong on that!)
worrycue 3y ago
> Sounds great, but with all the morons reacting prolifically to every piece of trash, will my one carefully allotted upvote be valued? At least you aren't adding to the problem.
digging 3y ago
What does one do with unallocated credits? Would they be banked for future votes or lost? In the case of social media, how are credits even allocated? If a simple daily model, that already feels bad. See something great in the morning, don't vote for it! You might see something better in the evening. Should be able to dip into negatives somehow for urgent, high importance matters.

by RegW 3y ago

DrScientist 3y ago

Interesting. When I looked at their example poll - what was interesting was I started to think tactically - as votes now cost - I'm much more interested in not wasting votes on issues that aren't going to be closely fought. ie Even if I had strong feelings about topic X - should I vote if I already can guess the outcome of the vote - surely smarter to avoid wasting that vote and focus on something that's likely to be closely contested? So you end up with a secondary market in information about how the vote is or is likely to go. Ideally, as a user, what I'd like is the ability see the existing state of all the polls, and be able to dynamically adjust my vote based on the current voting state. If the platform doesn't do that - then any differential in information about how the votes might go creates an unfair voting dynamic - ie the voting outcome isn't just about how much you care..... If you map that back to say hackernews threads and voting - would people hold off voting, hoping somebody else spends their vote first - leading to less interaction. In the end - isn't the quality of votes simply a reflection of the quality of the electorate?

bee_rider 3y ago
Maybe we can come up with a scheme to combine all our votes into a giant finite state machine…

orzig 3y ago

Strong +1 (squared) to the quadratic voting suggestion. But I don’t think that it could be implemented in any sizable existing community, it is just too abstract of a benefit. But the discussion around SMOL Webb communities, feels applicable here, the type of person that would get excited about a quadratic coding community is self selected to think more deeply and abstractly in the first place. Plenty of these people exist, but there has not been a Schelling point for them. (definitely correct me if I’m wrong on that!)

worrycue 3y ago

> Sounds great, but with all the morons reacting prolifically to every piece of trash, will my one carefully allotted upvote be valued? At least you aren't adding to the problem.

digging 3y ago

What does one do with unallocated credits? Would they be banked for future votes or lost? In the case of social media, how are credits even allocated? If a simple daily model, that already feels bad. See something great in the morning, don't vote for it! You might see something better in the evening. Should be able to dip into negatives somehow for urgent, high importance matters.