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I'll believe thier hypothesis when I can run the open source code on my iPhone in 2 seconds, doubt it's that fast.

by suyash 3y ago

asutekku 3y ago
They included a video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zK5PQ3Oj_L8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zK5PQ3Oj_L8
- prepend 3y ago
  That demo doesn’t really do anything for me to know if it’s on device or not. Without source code it could just be calling the OpenAI api.
  - lelandfe 3y ago
    The phone is in airplane mode
    - prepend 3y ago
      The issue is that it’s a controlled video from the author. I can still get Wi-Fi and Bluetooth in airplane mode so the airplane mode sign isn’t “proof” enough for me to accept the paper conclusions. I hope it’s real, but posting a YouTube to assuage the “show me the implementation” isn’t going to help with my cynicism.
      - lelandfe 3y ago
        They clearly are not connected to WiFi. You’re concocting a pretty far fetched theory at this point.
        prepend 3y ago
        Asking for evidence isn’t a “far fetched theory.” A video isn’t evidence. I’m looking forward to more info proving the claims are accurate.
        lelandfe 3y ago
        Videos are absolutely evidence. You’re looking for someone to replicate their findings, which is fine, but your basis for believing it to be possibly fraudulent is far-fetched.
        semi-extrinsic 3y ago
        Not OP, but I guess "nullius in verba" has gone out of fashion then?
      - detrites 3y ago
        The paper describes the implementation including a detailed breakdown of the optimisation algorithm itself. It's also plausible an iPhone 14 Pro could do it given its memory b/w, ops/s and that it can fit the SD model in RAM.
        bee_rider 3y ago
        Hopefully someone will replicate it, and then we’ll know if they were telling the truth.
        simlevesque 3y ago
        So you just assume these smart people are all lying ? And not just like hiding details but straight up saying it's on-device but faking it ? If so, I don't understand why that is your reaction.
- RobotToaster 3y ago
  How do we know the video isn't ai generated? (fnord)
- tpmx 3y ago
  In that video it takes 5 seconds.

I'll believe thier hypothesis when I can run the open source code on my iPhone in 2 seconds, doubt it's that fast.

by suyash 3y ago

I'll believe thier hypothesis when I can run the open source code on my iPhone in 2 seconds, doubt it's that fast.

asutekku 3y ago

They included a video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zK5PQ3Oj_L8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zK5PQ3Oj_L8

prepend 3y ago
That demo doesn’t really do anything for me to know if it’s on device or not. Without source code it could just be calling the OpenAI api.
- lelandfe 3y ago
  The phone is in airplane mode
  - prepend 3y ago
    The issue is that it’s a controlled video from the author. I can still get Wi-Fi and Bluetooth in airplane mode so the airplane mode sign isn’t “proof” enough for me to accept the paper conclusions. I hope it’s real, but posting a YouTube to assuage the “show me the implementation” isn’t going to help with my cynicism.
    - lelandfe 3y ago
      They clearly are not connected to WiFi. You’re concocting a pretty far fetched theory at this point.
      - prepend 3y ago
        Asking for evidence isn’t a “far fetched theory.” A video isn’t evidence. I’m looking forward to more info proving the claims are accurate.
        lelandfe 3y ago
        Videos are absolutely evidence. You’re looking for someone to replicate their findings, which is fine, but your basis for believing it to be possibly fraudulent is far-fetched.
        semi-extrinsic 3y ago
        Not OP, but I guess "nullius in verba" has gone out of fashion then?
    - detrites 3y ago
      The paper describes the implementation including a detailed breakdown of the optimisation algorithm itself. It's also plausible an iPhone 14 Pro could do it given its memory b/w, ops/s and that it can fit the SD model in RAM.
      - bee_rider 3y ago
        Hopefully someone will replicate it, and then we’ll know if they were telling the truth.
        simlevesque 3y ago
        So you just assume these smart people are all lying ? And not just like hiding details but straight up saying it's on-device but faking it ? If so, I don't understand why that is your reaction.
RobotToaster 3y ago
How do we know the video isn't ai generated? (fnord)
tpmx 3y ago
In that video it takes 5 seconds.