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Hot Coffee Case
- londons_explore 3y agoA lot of coffee people would argue that 82-88C coffee isn't hot enough to brew properly...
- Steve44 3y agoNote that the article says that is the holding temperature, not the brewing temperature. I can't see the article specifies but I expect this will have been filter coffee and so it's the temperature the brewed coffee is held at in the pot.
- hsjqllzlfkf 3y ago> Liebeck's attorneys argued that coffee should never be served hotter than 140 °F (60 °C), and that a number of other establishments served coffee at a substantially lower temperature than McDonald's. The attorneys presented evidence that coffee they had tested all over the city was served at a temperature at least 20 °F (11 °C) lower than McDonald's coffee. They also presented the jury with expert testimony that 190 °F (88 °C) coffee may produce third-degree burns (where skin grafting is necessary) in about three seconds and 180 °F (82 °C) coffee may produce such burns in about twelve to fifteen seconds.
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- londons_explore 3y agoThe funny thing about this case is that it isn't possible for coffee to be over 100C. If it were, then you'd be receiving an empty cup and a cloud of steam. So the mere fact that the victim didn't receive an empty cup says that the coffee must have been at 99C or below - and that is IMO the temperature that I would expect a coffee to be...
- expertentipp 3y agoIf you spill coffee in my country in McDonalds or some other brain dead American franchise they will simply shrug. No way it would ever escalate and impact customers in Americah.
- hsjqllzlfkf 3y agoIf you suffer third degree burns and no one's at fault, maybe your country just has really weak consumer protection laws? > Liebeck went into shock and was taken to an emergency room at a hospital. She suffered third-degree burns on six percent of her skin and lesser burns over sixteen percent.[14][13] She remained in the hospital for eight days while she underwent skin grafting. During this period, Liebeck lost 20 pounds (9.1 kg), nearly 20 percent of her body weight, reducing her to 83 pounds (38 kg). After the hospital stay, Liebeck needed care for three weeks, which was provided by her daughter.[15] Liebeck suffered permanent disfigurement after the incident and was partially disabled for two years.[16][17] For example, your country wouldn't punish people like these: > Other documents obtained from McDonald's showed that from 1982 to 1992 the company had received more than 700 reports of people burned by McDonald's coffee to varying degrees of severity
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- StimDeck 3y agoThe same old tired hot take from someone who didn’t read. This was an exceptional case, and a number of expensive lawyers weren’t able to stave off this litigation.
- StimDeck 3y agoWhy bother commenting such uninformed, speculative nonsense. As if no one had previously ever called this case frivolous. Just read the Wikipedia entry, it’s short. I believe in you.