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Right, that's on the individual level. You and I can donate to a medical organization that helps people 'see and hear' too. Or fund a go-fund-me to help that pe

Right, that's on the individual level. You and I can donate to a medical organization that helps people 'see and hear' too. Or fund a go-fund-me to help that person. It's great that person got immediate access to the healthcare they needed with this money. We can do basically what Mr Beast does right now if we pooled our resources together. The bigger issue is why that healthcare is inaccessible to them in the first place? How do you or I go about solving this? How are you and I gonna bring this attention to Congress, and get their asses to work on that issue? Unless we both quit our careers to go into politics, it's not really possible for a random no-name person to make that change for the greater population. How about the other 10k people who can't see or hear? What about them? If I had Mr Beast's financial or influence level, the next step I would be doing is wondering why those 1k or 2k people didn't get their healthcare and then trying to patch that. We all know how much of a scam our current system is. Once that's patched, everyone gets to eat for life, not just a single batch of 1k people in my lifetime. Individual contributions are great and welcomed, but temporary. Societal change is where things get real. Cmon bro. It's why we have 40 hour work weeks, why women can vote and get college education, why lgbt community is accepted. And it's not like individual contributions and making society change are mutually exclusive... So what' stopping Mr Beast from going to that next step?

oh_sigh 3y ago
What is Mr Beast's net worth? Maybe somewhere between $100M and $500M. There are at least 1000 people in the US right now, probably far more, who have just as much money or influence as him. What's stopping all of them from going to that next step?
- batmaniam 3y ago
  Exactly. What's stopping them? Nothing, right? They've got all the money they'll ever need, and powerful friends if they need something money can't buy. Yet like you said, what's being done to fix structural issues within society? The only structural changes I see are wealth disparities getting increasingly wider in society, with laws and tax cuts being favored for the ultra rich after each new presidential leadership. Who's putting the work into this? Not me, and probably not you. So who? They for sure donate to make-a-wish foundations or whatever, which is great. But think of it this way: how does that help you or your kids when cost-prohibitive life-saving surgery is needed? Are you gonna quit your job and camp out near a rich youtuber's house to get that lucky chance encounter in the hopes you'll get picked for the next individual success?
  - oh_sigh 3y ago
    It doesn't help when a random person needs that surgery. But it certainly does help the random person that gets the surgery. My point is that he can't just drop $300M on some topic and get the world to change. Can you tell me how he could use his money to ensure that everyone in America gets that life saving surgery? Is he going to somehow convince die hard Republicans that it isn't socialized medicine? Biden and Trump each spent far more than Beast's net worth on trying to get elected in 2020, and one of them lost after spending $800M. I don't really see what he is supposed to do to effect structural change in the US with his measly $300M or whatever.
tasuki 3y ago
> If I had Mr Beast's financial or influence level, the next step I would be doing is wondering why those 1k or 2k people didn't get their healthcare and then trying to patch that. It sounds like you know what should be done. Why don't you have Mr Beast financial or influence level? And why is that necessary to structurally improve healthcare? > So what' stopping Mr Beast from going to that next step? What's stopping you or anyone else?
- batmaniam 3y ago
  > Why don't you have Mr Beast financial or influence level? > What's stopping you or anyone else? Ad hominem fallacy. Life is not lucky for most people in the world. Don't really have to explain this if you look at how wealth disparity or how poverty trap works. You can wikipedia this yourself. > why is that necessary to structurally improve healthcare? Have you ever tried to intensely petition something? Or get an issue in front of your representative to take seriously? Do you know how much work and effort that takes? It's not simply doing an online poll. You literally have to go door to door every day to get signatures, to go out and talk to convince people to your cause, all the while fighting billionaire-funded counter groups and cops. Everyone's gotta work to feed themselves and their families, get access to employer-only healthcare. People don't have time or money for intense political work. There's a reason why disinformation and interference in politics from Russia was such a big deal.. You have a state-level actor with state-level infinite money pouring into political groups creating societal havoc at the structural level. A regular joe can't do this kind of damage. Only people with serious money can. The only other way things change structurally is through solidarity. Everyone protests in the streets. Cop reforms didn't come about because people asked nicely. People died and got mad. So yea, unlike literally 99% of the people on earth who have to slave away at a job, if I had Mr Beast's money I would do the next step and fix issues permanently, because at that income level it's possible to give it a try. Instead, I see a few comments saying he spent a good chunk of that fortune on running a low quality burger chain lol.
  - tasuki 3y ago
    > Have you ever tried to intensely petition something? Or get an issue in front of your representative to take seriously? Do you know how much work and effort that takes? It's not simply doing an online poll. So, why do you expect mister beast to be able to change things? He's doing more than me for sure. > if I had Mr Beast's money I would do the next step and fix issues permanently, Ehh. You probably wouldn't?
moomoo11 3y ago
What is he supposed to do? He’s inspiring people while making money. Unlike a lot of people like yourself who just say a bunch of brain dead vapid shit that gets nothing done. All people need to do is vote for the change they want to see if you want to see societal change. Yet they don’t. It’s that simple. Not my problem people don’t show up. There are maybe 100k super rich people in USA. 300 million everyone else.

oh_sigh 3y ago

What is Mr Beast's net worth? Maybe somewhere between $100M and $500M. There are at least 1000 people in the US right now, probably far more, who have just as much money or influence as him. What's stopping all of them from going to that next step?

batmaniam 3y ago
Exactly. What's stopping them? Nothing, right? They've got all the money they'll ever need, and powerful friends if they need something money can't buy. Yet like you said, what's being done to fix structural issues within society? The only structural changes I see are wealth disparities getting increasingly wider in society, with laws and tax cuts being favored for the ultra rich after each new presidential leadership. Who's putting the work into this? Not me, and probably not you. So who? They for sure donate to make-a-wish foundations or whatever, which is great. But think of it this way: how does that help you or your kids when cost-prohibitive life-saving surgery is needed? Are you gonna quit your job and camp out near a rich youtuber's house to get that lucky chance encounter in the hopes you'll get picked for the next individual success?
- oh_sigh 3y ago
  It doesn't help when a random person needs that surgery. But it certainly does help the random person that gets the surgery. My point is that he can't just drop $300M on some topic and get the world to change. Can you tell me how he could use his money to ensure that everyone in America gets that life saving surgery? Is he going to somehow convince die hard Republicans that it isn't socialized medicine? Biden and Trump each spent far more than Beast's net worth on trying to get elected in 2020, and one of them lost after spending $800M. I don't really see what he is supposed to do to effect structural change in the US with his measly $300M or whatever.

tasuki 3y ago

> If I had Mr Beast's financial or influence level, the next step I would be doing is wondering why those 1k or 2k people didn't get their healthcare and then trying to patch that. It sounds like you know what should be done. Why don't you have Mr Beast financial or influence level? And why is that necessary to structurally improve healthcare? > So what' stopping Mr Beast from going to that next step? What's stopping you or anyone else?

batmaniam 3y ago
> Why don't you have Mr Beast financial or influence level? > What's stopping you or anyone else? Ad hominem fallacy. Life is not lucky for most people in the world. Don't really have to explain this if you look at how wealth disparity or how poverty trap works. You can wikipedia this yourself. > why is that necessary to structurally improve healthcare? Have you ever tried to intensely petition something? Or get an issue in front of your representative to take seriously? Do you know how much work and effort that takes? It's not simply doing an online poll. You literally have to go door to door every day to get signatures, to go out and talk to convince people to your cause, all the while fighting billionaire-funded counter groups and cops. Everyone's gotta work to feed themselves and their families, get access to employer-only healthcare. People don't have time or money for intense political work. There's a reason why disinformation and interference in politics from Russia was such a big deal.. You have a state-level actor with state-level infinite money pouring into political groups creating societal havoc at the structural level. A regular joe can't do this kind of damage. Only people with serious money can. The only other way things change structurally is through solidarity. Everyone protests in the streets. Cop reforms didn't come about because people asked nicely. People died and got mad. So yea, unlike literally 99% of the people on earth who have to slave away at a job, if I had Mr Beast's money I would do the next step and fix issues permanently, because at that income level it's possible to give it a try. Instead, I see a few comments saying he spent a good chunk of that fortune on running a low quality burger chain lol.
- tasuki 3y ago
  > Have you ever tried to intensely petition something? Or get an issue in front of your representative to take seriously? Do you know how much work and effort that takes? It's not simply doing an online poll. So, why do you expect mister beast to be able to change things? He's doing more than me for sure. > if I had Mr Beast's money I would do the next step and fix issues permanently, Ehh. You probably wouldn't?

moomoo11 3y ago

What is he supposed to do? He’s inspiring people while making money. Unlike a lot of people like yourself who just say a bunch of brain dead vapid shit that gets nothing done. All people need to do is vote for the change they want to see if you want to see societal change. Yet they don’t. It’s that simple. Not my problem people don’t show up. There are maybe 100k super rich people in USA. 300 million everyone else.