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Nowhere did I say it was acceptable. I refered to them as idiots and assholes. Also nowhere did I complain that people were leaving the state for that reason.

Nowhere did I say it was acceptable. I refered to them as idiots and assholes. Also nowhere did I complain that people were leaving the state for that reason. What I said, since you seem hell bent on a straw man argument tactic, was that the population of Florida was large and diverse and the number of neo-nazi assholes are so few that in 45 years of living here I have encountered maybe 3. But hey your opinion so formed from apparently zero practical experience and only the political commentary and news commentary that you read should certainly keep you away. The growing intentional increase of population in the state, including quite ironically to this conversation, several of my non-white, non-Christian, non-male, and in one case, non-heterosexual remote working coworkers who could live literally anywhere…have chosen to disagree with your assessment of the diversity and friendly nature of the state.

wyclif 3y ago
Anybody who forms their opinion of any US state from papers like the Guardian UK instead of actually, you know, visiting the state in question usually results in people developing very stupid and ill-conceived impressions. It's as if there are a group of urbanites who form their impression of Florida entirely from Florida Man memes.
- inferiorhuman 3y ago
  Anybody who forms their opinion of any US state from papers like the Guardian UK instead of actually, you know, visiting the state in question usually results in people developing very stupid and ill-conceived impressions. It's as if there are a group of urbanites who form their impression of Florida entirely from Florida Man memes. How's that saying go? When you assume you make an ass out of you? Yeah. I've been to Florida. As far north as Jacksonville and as far south as Key West. It's almost as if you're trying to ignore the litany of hate groups that are festering in Florida because it doesn't fit your narrative. But, here, have a couple more sources on the vile gerrymandering. Even the courts have pointed out how racist the desantis redistricting was. But, sure, hang your hat on your fear of the Guardian. https://www.propublica.org/article/ron-desantis-florida-redistricting-map-scheme https://www.propublica.org/article/ron-desantis-florida-redi... https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/redistricting-2022-maps/florida/ https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/redistricting-2022-maps...
  - kcplate 3y ago
    > It's almost as if you're trying to ignore the litany of hate groups that are festering in Florida because it doesn't fit your narrative. It’s almost as if you are trying to ignore the litany of non-hate and wonderfully diverse groups of people living without issue and being a significant portion of the people in Florida because it doesn’t fit your narrative.
inferiorhuman 3y ago
The growing intentional increase of population in the state, including quite ironically to this conversation, several of my non-white, non-Christian, non-male, and in one case, non- heterosexual remote working coworkers who could live literally anywhere…have chosen to disagree with your assessment of the diversity and friendly nature of the state. So if the gays aren't avoiding Florida like Peter I-wanna-suck-your-blood Thiel is claiming, what are you complaining about?
- kcplate 3y ago
  This started with a reference to a small group of Nazi flag waving protesters outside Disney World and an assumption that that group represents the population of Florida. After ironically confirming my comment about the small sizes of these neo-Nazis here in Florida with your own links trying to disprove my point (that was a really weird debate tactic BTW), you have now decided to expand this nazi group to all sorts of people you don’t agree with. Yes, if you move to Florida you might encounter someone who holds a different viewpoint than you. I suspect that to be the case everywhere though. Florida is diverse and growing. I am sorry that bothers you, feel free to not move here if you feel you would be unhappy, we could certainly use one less car on the road.
  - inferiorhuman 3y ago
    This started with a reference to a small group of Nazi flag waving protesters outside Disney World and an assumption that that group represents the population of Florida And yet groups like the Anti Defamation League and the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People are showing a rise in hate groups. Go figure. confirming my comment about the small sizes of these neo-Nazis here in Florida Time for you to get some perspective. What you consider to be a small group of Nazis and "people you don’t agree with" is far larger and more widespread than in for e.g. New York City. What you consider small is pretty damn large for anyone on the outside looking in. you have now decided to expand this nazi group to all sorts of people you don’t agree with And there it is. That old chestnut. No. The klan is not simply a group that I "don't agree with." Gerrymandering voting districts to eliminate any black pluralities is not simply a disagreement it's an existential threat. Florida is diverse and growing. I'm not quite sure why you're harping on diversity. These diverse people that you seem to love to trot out are being persecuted. They're also leaving because of the persecution that you seem to think doesn't exist. https://www.floridatoday.com/story/news/2023/05/31/families-leave-florida-desantis-laws-lgbtq-transgender-rights-immigration/70215225007/ https://www.floridatoday.com/story/news/2023/05/31/families-...

wyclif 3y ago

Anybody who forms their opinion of any US state from papers like the Guardian UK instead of actually, you know, visiting the state in question usually results in people developing very stupid and ill-conceived impressions. It's as if there are a group of urbanites who form their impression of Florida entirely from Florida Man memes.

inferiorhuman 3y ago
Anybody who forms their opinion of any US state from papers like the Guardian UK instead of actually, you know, visiting the state in question usually results in people developing very stupid and ill-conceived impressions. It's as if there are a group of urbanites who form their impression of Florida entirely from Florida Man memes. How's that saying go? When you assume you make an ass out of you? Yeah. I've been to Florida. As far north as Jacksonville and as far south as Key West. It's almost as if you're trying to ignore the litany of hate groups that are festering in Florida because it doesn't fit your narrative. But, here, have a couple more sources on the vile gerrymandering. Even the courts have pointed out how racist the desantis redistricting was. But, sure, hang your hat on your fear of the Guardian. https://www.propublica.org/article/ron-desantis-florida-redistricting-map-scheme https://www.propublica.org/article/ron-desantis-florida-redi... https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/redistricting-2022-maps/florida/ https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/redistricting-2022-maps...
- kcplate 3y ago
  > It's almost as if you're trying to ignore the litany of hate groups that are festering in Florida because it doesn't fit your narrative. It’s almost as if you are trying to ignore the litany of non-hate and wonderfully diverse groups of people living without issue and being a significant portion of the people in Florida because it doesn’t fit your narrative.

inferiorhuman 3y ago

The growing intentional increase of population in the state, including quite ironically to this conversation, several of my non-white, non-Christian, non-male, and in one case, non- heterosexual remote working coworkers who could live literally anywhere…have chosen to disagree with your assessment of the diversity and friendly nature of the state. So if the gays aren't avoiding Florida like Peter I-wanna-suck-your-blood Thiel is claiming, what are you complaining about?

kcplate 3y ago
This started with a reference to a small group of Nazi flag waving protesters outside Disney World and an assumption that that group represents the population of Florida. After ironically confirming my comment about the small sizes of these neo-Nazis here in Florida with your own links trying to disprove my point (that was a really weird debate tactic BTW), you have now decided to expand this nazi group to all sorts of people you don’t agree with. Yes, if you move to Florida you might encounter someone who holds a different viewpoint than you. I suspect that to be the case everywhere though. Florida is diverse and growing. I am sorry that bothers you, feel free to not move here if you feel you would be unhappy, we could certainly use one less car on the road.
- inferiorhuman 3y ago
  This started with a reference to a small group of Nazi flag waving protesters outside Disney World and an assumption that that group represents the population of Florida And yet groups like the Anti Defamation League and the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People are showing a rise in hate groups. Go figure. confirming my comment about the small sizes of these neo-Nazis here in Florida Time for you to get some perspective. What you consider to be a small group of Nazis and "people you don’t agree with" is far larger and more widespread than in for e.g. New York City. What you consider small is pretty damn large for anyone on the outside looking in. you have now decided to expand this nazi group to all sorts of people you don’t agree with And there it is. That old chestnut. No. The klan is not simply a group that I "don't agree with." Gerrymandering voting districts to eliminate any black pluralities is not simply a disagreement it's an existential threat. Florida is diverse and growing. I'm not quite sure why you're harping on diversity. These diverse people that you seem to love to trot out are being persecuted. They're also leaving because of the persecution that you seem to think doesn't exist. https://www.floridatoday.com/story/news/2023/05/31/families-leave-florida-desantis-laws-lgbtq-transgender-rights-immigration/70215225007/ https://www.floridatoday.com/story/news/2023/05/31/families-...