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Malls in suburbs are extremely busy. I'm about as pro urban as you get. I live two miles from downtown Portland. But I have noticed that a lot of urbanites pre

Malls in suburbs are extremely busy. I'm about as pro urban as you get. I live two miles from downtown Portland. But I have noticed that a lot of urbanites pretend that malls are doomed. This is a lie. Suburban malls are clearly doing great while urban malls, including those in dense walkable areas are faltering. In fact, all downtown areas are faltering at least on the west coast .

no_wizard 3y ago
Portland would have a great downtown if they got the unhoused population under control. The complete inaction of Portland's government to do anything substantial to actually fix this problem is what made Portland go from a very happening and up & coming city to a nightmare. As an Oregonian living now just outside of Portland (near Nike FWIW) I'm hoping for the day Multnomah and Portland get their act together. Such a great area to live otherwise. Kinda not surprised why Bend blew up in population though, once I realized what was going on
- rconti 3y ago
  what do you mean "once I realized what was going on"?
rconti 3y ago
> The decline of the American mall has left just 700 still standing. Soon there may be just 150 left. https://www.businessinsider.com/american-mall-decline-150-left-10-years-how-many-2022-10 https://www.businessinsider.com/american-mall-decline-150-le...
duxup 3y ago
In the winter the Mall of America is a big deal for me and my kids. Big nice space to walk in.
hindsightbias 3y ago
Suburbinites still drive. Have to drive, to go anywhere. The WFH movement is a cancer to urban areas. Always crawling over brown boxes I am.
- rconti 3y ago
  There's a lot in between. I live in a suburb but am also a block from a grocery store, coffee shop, pastry shop, pizzeria, brewery.....
Gigachad 3y ago
Situation seems to be a lot different in Australia. All malls, especially those in the CBDs, are completely packed all the time. Though iirc, Australia has far fewer malls per capita. So perhaps the US simply built too many malls and is now correcting to something sane.

no_wizard 3y ago

Portland would have a great downtown if they got the unhoused population under control. The complete inaction of Portland's government to do anything substantial to actually fix this problem is what made Portland go from a very happening and up & coming city to a nightmare. As an Oregonian living now just outside of Portland (near Nike FWIW) I'm hoping for the day Multnomah and Portland get their act together. Such a great area to live otherwise. Kinda not surprised why Bend blew up in population though, once I realized what was going on

rconti 3y ago
what do you mean "once I realized what was going on"?

rconti 3y ago

> The decline of the American mall has left just 700 still standing. Soon there may be just 150 left. https://www.businessinsider.com/american-mall-decline-150-left-10-years-how-many-2022-10 https://www.businessinsider.com/american-mall-decline-150-le...

duxup 3y ago

In the winter the Mall of America is a big deal for me and my kids. Big nice space to walk in.

hindsightbias 3y ago

Suburbinites still drive. Have to drive, to go anywhere. The WFH movement is a cancer to urban areas. Always crawling over brown boxes I am.

rconti 3y ago
There's a lot in between. I live in a suburb but am also a block from a grocery store, coffee shop, pastry shop, pizzeria, brewery.....

Gigachad 3y ago

Situation seems to be a lot different in Australia. All malls, especially those in the CBDs, are completely packed all the time. Though iirc, Australia has far fewer malls per capita. So perhaps the US simply built too many malls and is now correcting to something sane.