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This isn't remotely comparable. Those .DS_Store files are created in arbitrary directories by the Apple file manager or something. The SQLite temp files are cre
by sltkr 3y ago
This isn't remotely comparable. Those .DS_Store files are created in arbitrary directories by the Apple file manager or something. The SQLite temp files are created in the OS-specific temporary directory (e.g. C:/Users/username/AppData/Local/Temp or whatever on Windows) which is specifically intended for that purpose. SQLite isn't doing anything wrong; that's where it's supposed to store temporary data that doesn't fit into memory.
The problem is that virus scanners sometimes misclassify those temp files as belonging to malware apps, or sometimes they might be written by real malware apps, but even in the latter case, that only happens because the malware uses sqlite as a library. The malware isn't written by the SQLite authors, so complaining to them is pointless.
- deaddodo 3y ago> Those .DS_Store files are created in arbitrary directories by the Apple file manager or something. .DS_Store files come from Apple's file systems containing a separate data and resource fork. APFS can natively store the contents, but for foreign file systems/network shares, a .DS_Store file is created to store those attributes.
- remram 3y agoI never knew that. How come they end up in Git repositories then? They shouldn't be visible to Git running on a native Mac filesystem?
- Ndymium 3y agoThey are visible to programs, for example if you run `ls -a` you will see them on macOS too. I reckon they're only transparent to Finder (where you can't see them even if you're showing hidden files).
- ckolkey 3y agoThey're just a file, so git can see it. Good habit would be to add it to the project's gitignore, or your global gitignore (or both)
- globular-toast 3y agoIt's a pet peeve of mine when people put stuff like this in a project's `.gitignore`. The proper place is either your global gitignore (probably appropriate for stupid stuff like this) or in your clone in `.git/info/exclude`. `.gitignore` is for stuff that all developers need to ignore, like compiler output, and should be kept to the bare minimum.
- s1gsegv 3y agoI can see an argument for this being semantically correct, but in practice I think it's preferable to have the repo checkout in the closest configuration to correct for new developers who will start contributing. And, for what it's worth, all developers need to ignore .DS_Store files regardless if Finder creates it or it gets placed in when you unzip something created on a Mac, for instance. In the best case, you spend extra time needlessly denying PRs and bothering people who already likely don't know git well enough to cleanly fix their commit. In the case of a repo large enough that you're not the only person approving PRs, I'd say it's almost inevitable that they eventually slip through. Just my 2¢ from experience working in the industry.
- krisoft 3y ago> .gitignore` is for stuff that all developers need to ignore But that is the case, all developers need to ignore the ".DS_Store" files. So by your own rule it is appropriate in there then?
- Skeime 3y agoI think the point is that only developers on Macs need to ignore them. If they properly do so, these files will never appear on other developer’s machines, and they therefore don’t need them in .gitignore.
- lxgr 3y agoIt’s not that straightforward to ignore files in git without adding them to a local .gitignore, though. Global .gitignore exists, but I just had to look it up again to refresh my memory – chances are, junior devs or hobby developers will never even consider it as an option. That said, arguably ignoring .DS_Storage should be the default on macOS builds of git.
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- YetAnotherNick 3y agoI don't have OCD but the casing of .DS_Store annoys me a lot for some reason. I have turned on option to display dot files in finder and I see this god awful name everywhere. It could be .DSStore, .ds_store, .DS Store or even .DS_STORE, current one is the worst.
- lxgr 3y ago> .DS_Store files come from Apple's file systems containing a separate data and resource fork No, that would be ._<filename> files (containing resource forks, when the corresponding file is stored on a volume with a FS not supporting them natively), which are much rarer these days given that resource forks are not really used anymore. .DS_Store contains Finder metadata, as far as I know (non-default icon sorting or positioning, categories, tags etc.), and they occur on all volumes, including Mac native filesystems. Finder just hides them by default.
- thrdbndndn 3y agoYou misunderstood what the comment in the code was saying. Firstly, it not that anti-virus software was misclassifying it -- it's that a particular one, Mcafee, was USING sqlite. And more importantly, it didn't put the file(s) in the proper %temp% folder. Instead, it created it as `C:\temp\{name}.sqlite_`. This is why users found them suspicious and complained to devs. Also keep in mind putting random files or folders under root of C:\ was, while never recommended, a common practice in 2000s (some still do so even today). So what Mcafee was doing is hardly unheard of. But people still freak out when they see these in their C:\ (TBH, understandable). > %userprofile%
- ShadowBanThis01 3y agoThey're not arbitrary at all. They're in directories visited by Finder, storing the open/closed state of subdirectories, and apparently other view data. Apple, in its arrogance and backwardness, doesn't store those choices on the BROWSING user's computer; it stores them in the directories on the computer being browsed... where, by the way, they'll be trounced by the next Finder user who comes along.
- LinAGKar 3y agoKDE's Dolphin does the same thing with .directory