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wait... he put "assigned by god" but then states that "god created man is his image and assigned them male and female" so why not just male? There is something

wait... he put "assigned by god" but then states that "god created man is his image and assigned them male and female" so why not just male? There is something else to this...

alex_lav 3y ago
The "something else" was that this person was trying to be difficult and make a statement rather than just putting his actual pronouns.
anonymouskimmer 3y ago
> so why not just male? It's of the form "Have you stopped beating your wife? Answer only yes or no." To be as brief as possible the typical objections to doing something like that are that it directly supports the societal changes that see the use of pronouns as a personal preference of the referent, and indirectly signals to others that may likewise object that he doesn't object when he actually does (i.e. that they're in a smaller minority than they actually are) or they should go along regardless.
- DistractionRect 3y ago
  This is just a massive strawman. The question your crafted makes a strong negative implication about the respondent. Asking what's your name, your pronouns, etc have weak implications. Most people have names and prefer certain pronouns. That's the beginning and the end of the implication. Catholics do have pronouns, they just believe in the standard he/him, she/her and that those pronouns correlate with genital from birth. Some people have gender neutral names and, like sarcasm, gender identity doesn't convey well in text based communications- in this suit, Slack. Confirming up front rather than in request-response, error-correction type exchanges saves some time and some feelings. It doesn't infringe on religious freedom, as it's simply asking for clarification so others may respect your beliefs. At the same time, you can believe one thing, and respect the beliefs of others and use their name/pronouns when speaking to/of them.
  - tiernano 3y ago
    > Confirming up front rather than in request-response, error-correction type exchanges saves some time and some feelings. This is also useful in multinational companies. We have hires in other countries, and other cultures, and without reference, I find myself referring to them as they/them... same with some names that could be either Male or Female (Jack springs to mind).
Dfiesl 3y ago
I guess he wanted to emphasise the idea that he didn't choose his pronouns, God did.

wait... he put "assigned by god" but then states that "god created man is his image and assigned them male and female" so why not just male? There is something else to this...

alex_lav 3y ago

The "something else" was that this person was trying to be difficult and make a statement rather than just putting his actual pronouns.

anonymouskimmer 3y ago

> so why not just male? It's of the form "Have you stopped beating your wife? Answer only yes or no." To be as brief as possible the typical objections to doing something like that are that it directly supports the societal changes that see the use of pronouns as a personal preference of the referent, and indirectly signals to others that may likewise object that he doesn't object when he actually does (i.e. that they're in a smaller minority than they actually are) or they should go along regardless.

DistractionRect 3y ago
This is just a massive strawman. The question your crafted makes a strong negative implication about the respondent. Asking what's your name, your pronouns, etc have weak implications. Most people have names and prefer certain pronouns. That's the beginning and the end of the implication. Catholics do have pronouns, they just believe in the standard he/him, she/her and that those pronouns correlate with genital from birth. Some people have gender neutral names and, like sarcasm, gender identity doesn't convey well in text based communications- in this suit, Slack. Confirming up front rather than in request-response, error-correction type exchanges saves some time and some feelings. It doesn't infringe on religious freedom, as it's simply asking for clarification so others may respect your beliefs. At the same time, you can believe one thing, and respect the beliefs of others and use their name/pronouns when speaking to/of them.
- tiernano 3y ago
  > Confirming up front rather than in request-response, error-correction type exchanges saves some time and some feelings. This is also useful in multinational companies. We have hires in other countries, and other cultures, and without reference, I find myself referring to them as they/them... same with some names that could be either Male or Female (Jack springs to mind).

Dfiesl 3y ago

I guess he wanted to emphasise the idea that he didn't choose his pronouns, God did.