Agreed, on whole. Humans need heroes, we need people to believe in, to aspire to - but we should never forget that our heroes are humans - and imperfect humans

Agreed, on whole. Humans need heroes, we need people to believe in, to aspire to - but we should never forget that our heroes are humans - and imperfect humans at that. One of my biggest issues with the new puritanism, is we dont let people evolve either - once you've done one bad thing - no matter what redemption or evolution you have later in life - you're just the guy who did the bad thing. Generally also, I think its bad to judge historical figures by current norms too. Like on TR - TR's views on... well pretty much everything evolved over time too (he notably became more progressive and more radical in that progressivism with age). His views on race evolved too as far as I know too (though I dont have sources handy to talk about it).