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> I remember reading newspapers and magazines and watching TV in the 80's and 90's and for the most part, they all seemed to have a unified (left-leaning) persp

> I remember reading newspapers and magazines and watching TV in the 80's and 90's and for the most part, they all seemed to have a unified (left-leaning) perspective on everything. This was the era of satantic panic[1], D&D being controversial due to devil worship, and when democrats and republicans joined hand in hand to try and outlaw vulgarity. The 80s was absurdly conservative. A regular talking point on 90s TV newscasts was about if it is ok for a man to kill another man who (romantically) hits on him. That was an actual topic the country was divided over. 1990s America, also not a bastion of radial left thinking. [1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satanic_panic https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satanic_panic

commandlinefan 3y ago
If that's the way you remember it (I don't remember it that way, but to each their own) then an unfettered medium like 4chan is still a positive break from a handful of stodgy old ideologues controlling the conversation. (I even disagree with both the left and the right on some things).
- com2kid 3y ago
  This is not a matter of memory, I'm talking about actual court cases, laws passed, and people killed. https://www.mtsu.edu/first-amendment/article/1268/tipper-gore https://www.mtsu.edu/first-amendment/article/1268/tipper-gor... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_panic_defense#Use_of_the_gay_panic_defense https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_panic_defense#Use_of_the_g... Then there was the incredible level of controversy over an out of the closet lesbian on nationwide TV! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Puppy_Episode#Reception https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Puppy_Episode#Reception Finally, I'll note that Rush Limbaugh was one of the nations most listened to media voices during this time period.
  - commandlinefan 3y ago
    > https://www.mtsu.edu/first-amendment/article/1268/tipper-gor https://www.mtsu.edu/first-amendment/article/1268/tipper-gor... Um... you do know that Tipper Gore was and still is an adamant leftist, right? She's Al Gore's wife.
    - com2kid 3y ago
      Censorship of music and art was a bipartisan push. My entire point was that the entire country was more conservative, a point I was demonstrating by showing a time when Democrats and Republicans joining hand in hand to censor music from black musicians. (They also tried to censor violent video games, and the entire internet!) > Um... you do know that Tipper Gore was and still is an adamant leftist, Look up https://www.politicalcompass.org/ https://www.politicalcompass.org/ specifically https://www.politicalcompass.org/analysis2 https://www.politicalcompass.org/analysis2 1 axis for left vs right makes no sense, especially when there are members of both dominant political parties who want to curtail liberties. Politics as a team sport is stupid, don't vote based on single letter next to someone's name, vote for the individual policies a candidate supports.
wpietri 3y ago
For sure. This was also the era that labor journalism died and media shifted to being pretty much relentlessly pro-capital.

commandlinefan 3y ago

If that's the way you remember it (I don't remember it that way, but to each their own) then an unfettered medium like 4chan is still a positive break from a handful of stodgy old ideologues controlling the conversation. (I even disagree with both the left and the right on some things).

com2kid 3y ago
This is not a matter of memory, I'm talking about actual court cases, laws passed, and people killed. https://www.mtsu.edu/first-amendment/article/1268/tipper-gore https://www.mtsu.edu/first-amendment/article/1268/tipper-gor... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_panic_defense#Use_of_the_gay_panic_defense https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_panic_defense#Use_of_the_g... Then there was the incredible level of controversy over an out of the closet lesbian on nationwide TV! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Puppy_Episode#Reception https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Puppy_Episode#Reception Finally, I'll note that Rush Limbaugh was one of the nations most listened to media voices during this time period.
- commandlinefan 3y ago
  > https://www.mtsu.edu/first-amendment/article/1268/tipper-gor https://www.mtsu.edu/first-amendment/article/1268/tipper-gor... Um... you do know that Tipper Gore was and still is an adamant leftist, right? She's Al Gore's wife.
  - com2kid 3y ago
    Censorship of music and art was a bipartisan push. My entire point was that the entire country was more conservative, a point I was demonstrating by showing a time when Democrats and Republicans joining hand in hand to censor music from black musicians. (They also tried to censor violent video games, and the entire internet!) > Um... you do know that Tipper Gore was and still is an adamant leftist, Look up https://www.politicalcompass.org/ https://www.politicalcompass.org/ specifically https://www.politicalcompass.org/analysis2 https://www.politicalcompass.org/analysis2 1 axis for left vs right makes no sense, especially when there are members of both dominant political parties who want to curtail liberties. Politics as a team sport is stupid, don't vote based on single letter next to someone's name, vote for the individual policies a candidate supports.

wpietri 3y ago

For sure. This was also the era that labor journalism died and media shifted to being pretty much relentlessly pro-capital.