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BLM had to actively fight against Black Bloc and prevent them from joining up with BLM protesters. Welcome to group dynamics. Yeah, it sucks. Hateful people tr

BLM had to actively fight against Black Bloc and prevent them from joining up with BLM protesters. Welcome to group dynamics. Yeah, it sucks. Hateful people try to join righteous causes. You have to absolutely censor them and cut them out of the group. -------- Why do you think Martin Luther King Jr. is so revered? Because there were Black Panthers marching with AK rifles using bombs to blow up their political rivals. They had to march in a way that proved that they were pro-peace and anti-violence, even if it meant forming an political rivalry (possibly political enemy) with the Black Panthers.

AnthonyMouse 3y ago
Now you're talking about in-person meetups where the groups have numerical superiority over some troublemakers and can exercise control over a physical space. That doesn't work on some social media platform where anyone can claim to be a member of your group while acting a fool, and everything happens live. If some idiots show up with explosives to your peaceful protest you can boot them out before anyone sees them. If some idiots start threatening people while claiming they're with you on the internet, you don't control what they say on their own accounts and you only see them at the same time as the opponents who want to use it as an excuse to ban your group.
- dragontamer 3y ago
  > If some idiots start threatening people while claiming they're with you on the internet Exercise your moderation powers and ban and/or shadowban them. Online groups have moderation tools, even 4chan has moderators who step in when Doxxers show up. Go on, try to advocate for violence here on Hacker News. You'll get [flagged] pretty quickly. That's why moderators exist. I get that its against your philosophy to use moderation tools on the internet. But its a necessary evil. You must enforce the cultural identity of the groups you lead, lest they turn into online hate groups rather quickly. It happens even to the best of us. Civil Rights era protesters had to deal with it. BLM had to deal with it today. Etc. etc. Its well known.
  - AnthonyMouse 3y ago
    That's assuming it's your platform. But then you don't have to worry about the moderators banning you for their words, because you're the moderators.

AnthonyMouse 3y ago

Now you're talking about in-person meetups where the groups have numerical superiority over some troublemakers and can exercise control over a physical space. That doesn't work on some social media platform where anyone can claim to be a member of your group while acting a fool, and everything happens live. If some idiots show up with explosives to your peaceful protest you can boot them out before anyone sees them. If some idiots start threatening people while claiming they're with you on the internet, you don't control what they say on their own accounts and you only see them at the same time as the opponents who want to use it as an excuse to ban your group.

dragontamer 3y ago
> If some idiots start threatening people while claiming they're with you on the internet Exercise your moderation powers and ban and/or shadowban them. Online groups have moderation tools, even 4chan has moderators who step in when Doxxers show up. Go on, try to advocate for violence here on Hacker News. You'll get [flagged] pretty quickly. That's why moderators exist. I get that its against your philosophy to use moderation tools on the internet. But its a necessary evil. You must enforce the cultural identity of the groups you lead, lest they turn into online hate groups rather quickly. It happens even to the best of us. Civil Rights era protesters had to deal with it. BLM had to deal with it today. Etc. etc. Its well known.
- AnthonyMouse 3y ago
  That's assuming it's your platform. But then you don't have to worry about the moderators banning you for their words, because you're the moderators.