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imgur charges ~150usd for what would cost ~15,000usd in the new structure

riku_iki 3y ago
its $3k/50m requests not $150/50m reqs, not far from reddit prices: https://rapidapi.com/imgur/api/imgur-9/pricing https://rapidapi.com/imgur/api/imgur-9/pricing
- weaksauce 3y ago
  from the dev himself: > I'm deeply disappointed in this price. Reddit iterated that the price would be A) reasonable and based in reality, and B) they would not operate like Twitter. Twitter's pricing was publicly ridiculed for its obscene price of $42,000 for 50 million tweets. Reddit's is still $12,000. For reference, I pay Imgur (a site similar to Reddit in user base and media) $166 for the same 50 million API calls.
  - riku_iki 3y ago
    I gave you link on official pricing, it is up to you who you want to trust.
    - weaksauce 3y ago
      https://web.archive.org/web/20210925071659/https://rapidapi.com/imgur/api/imgur-9/pricing https://web.archive.org/web/20210925071659/https://rapidapi.... was much cheaper just 2 years ago and he's been using it for at least 8 years... i imagine he was grandfathered in to an even earlier one/negotiated a deal. that's what sane api companies do... grandfather and don't pull the rug out in 30 days
      - riku_iki 3y ago
        That page says if he doesn't fit into mega plan, it will cost him 50k per 50m reqs, or I am missing something?
        weaksauce 3y ago
        What i'm saying is that just 2 years ago someone who signed up at the mega plan was spending 6,000 less for the same service. apollo has been using that api for a lot longer than 2 years... unfortunately the wayback doesn't go further back than 2 years. it's entirely possible that he's getting 50m req at 160 bucks because he's grandfathered in a deal is a deal generally and if they do increase their pricing you have a long time to either find an alternative or agree to it. aside from that i don't think the $0.001/request thing is for anyone operating at a scale much larger than 150m per month. just the initial $4000 makes it $1333/50m requests... to go from that to 50k/50m is asinine as it would be 37x more expensive; you are doing a custom deal at that point. His initial api access at the highest tier may well have been $500/150m requests based on how much the api has shot up in price for new users in just two years.
        riku_iki 3y ago
        so, current facts are: - imgur officially charges way more than reddit for API on the scale - your point is based solely on speculations and words of apollo dev, which I absolutely don't trust
        weaksauce 3y ago
        > so, current facts are: > - imgur officially charges way more than reddit for API on the scale > your point is based solely on speculations no, we have a reasonable extrapolation based on a worldview based in how the world operates. "if you need more than this call for pricing" is a trope and i've never seen a thing go up in price per unit when you guarantee a certain amount of revenue per year. flex capacity and pricing is more expensive than guaranteed traffic. > and words of apollo dev which I absolutely don't trust he's been nothing but forthcoming and transparent from what i've seen whereas spuz has a history of doing shady shit.
        riku_iki 3y ago
        > if you need more than this call for pricing" is a trope and i've never seen a thing go up in price per unit when you guarantee a certain amount of revenue per year it is all over the board: you give free doze at the beginning, and squeeze business when they rooted into your product > he's been nothing but forthcoming and transparent from what i've seen whereas spuz has a history of doing shady shit. in my view guy is total scam: - recorded business call without other party consent - on that call openly proposed to get $10m to go to sunset - when got rejected started wave in the internet with heavy manipulated numbers: * imgur API pricing * comparing Ads revenue from reddit MAU (majority do few visits per month) to his hyper active users with 250 reqs/d

its $3k/50m requests not $150/50m reqs, not far from reddit prices: https://rapidapi.com/imgur/api/imgur-9/pricing https://rapidapi.com/imgur/api/imgur-9/pricing

weaksauce 3y ago
from the dev himself: > I'm deeply disappointed in this price. Reddit iterated that the price would be A) reasonable and based in reality, and B) they would not operate like Twitter. Twitter's pricing was publicly ridiculed for its obscene price of $42,000 for 50 million tweets. Reddit's is still $12,000. For reference, I pay Imgur (a site similar to Reddit in user base and media) $166 for the same 50 million API calls.
- riku_iki 3y ago
  I gave you link on official pricing, it is up to you who you want to trust.
  - weaksauce 3y ago
    https://web.archive.org/web/20210925071659/https://rapidapi.com/imgur/api/imgur-9/pricing https://web.archive.org/web/20210925071659/https://rapidapi.... was much cheaper just 2 years ago and he's been using it for at least 8 years... i imagine he was grandfathered in to an even earlier one/negotiated a deal. that's what sane api companies do... grandfather and don't pull the rug out in 30 days
    - riku_iki 3y ago
      That page says if he doesn't fit into mega plan, it will cost him 50k per 50m reqs, or I am missing something?
      - weaksauce 3y ago
        What i'm saying is that just 2 years ago someone who signed up at the mega plan was spending 6,000 less for the same service. apollo has been using that api for a lot longer than 2 years... unfortunately the wayback doesn't go further back than 2 years. it's entirely possible that he's getting 50m req at 160 bucks because he's grandfathered in a deal is a deal generally and if they do increase their pricing you have a long time to either find an alternative or agree to it. aside from that i don't think the $0.001/request thing is for anyone operating at a scale much larger than 150m per month. just the initial $4000 makes it $1333/50m requests... to go from that to 50k/50m is asinine as it would be 37x more expensive; you are doing a custom deal at that point. His initial api access at the highest tier may well have been $500/150m requests based on how much the api has shot up in price for new users in just two years.
        riku_iki 3y ago
        so, current facts are: - imgur officially charges way more than reddit for API on the scale - your point is based solely on speculations and words of apollo dev, which I absolutely don't trust
        weaksauce 3y ago
        > so, current facts are: > - imgur officially charges way more than reddit for API on the scale > your point is based solely on speculations no, we have a reasonable extrapolation based on a worldview based in how the world operates. "if you need more than this call for pricing" is a trope and i've never seen a thing go up in price per unit when you guarantee a certain amount of revenue per year. flex capacity and pricing is more expensive than guaranteed traffic. > and words of apollo dev which I absolutely don't trust he's been nothing but forthcoming and transparent from what i've seen whereas spuz has a history of doing shady shit.
        riku_iki 3y ago
        > if you need more than this call for pricing" is a trope and i've never seen a thing go up in price per unit when you guarantee a certain amount of revenue per year it is all over the board: you give free doze at the beginning, and squeeze business when they rooted into your product > he's been nothing but forthcoming and transparent from what i've seen whereas spuz has a history of doing shady shit. in my view guy is total scam: - recorded business call without other party consent - on that call openly proposed to get $10m to go to sunset - when got rejected started wave in the internet with heavy manipulated numbers: * imgur API pricing * comparing Ads revenue from reddit MAU (majority do few visits per month) to his hyper active users with 250 reqs/d