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I dount it'll help you much to move. We've got drought and fire here in Sweden already. Never rains anymore. Slaugherhouses fullbooked already becauae the proba

I dount it'll help you much to move. We've got drought and fire here in Sweden already. Never rains anymore. Slaugherhouses fullbooked already becauae the probability of being able to keep the livestock fed and watered looks pretty bad already...

roflyear 3y ago
These issues are going to impact livestock around the world - which is a big contributor to global warming. I suppose some issues are self-correcting.
- guerrilla 3y ago
  Yeah malnutrition and inflation will be great...
- BasedAnon 3y ago
  If by self-correcting you mean 'killing enough humans until a new equilibrium is reached' sure
  - roflyear 3y ago
    Well, you don't need meat to survive.
genman 3y ago
I hope they make canned meat then.
hammock 3y ago
>Never rains anymore Sweden average rainfall seems to be trending up on a 100-year scale. https://tradingeconomics.com/sweden/precipitation https://tradingeconomics.com/sweden/precipitation > We've got drought and fire here in Sweden already Forest fires in Sweden are a complex dynamic and the risk factor from climate change is only one part. Here is an interesting discussion https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10113-020-01718-2 https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10113-020-01718-2 Droughts in Sweden have been on a downtrend for the last 60 years, with quite a bit of variability. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2214581822001847 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S221458182...
- limpanz 3y ago
  Well it mostly rains during winter in Sweden and for half the country that means snow, so mo chance of forest fires then. The past 10 years there have been more dry years during summer than the past. Also it's usually dry in the most southern parts of sweden, which also accounts for a majority of the food production.
- guerrilla 3y ago
  > Sweden average rainfall seems to be trending up on a 100-year scale. https://tradingeconomics.com/sweden/precipitation https://tradingeconomics.com/sweden/precipitation > Droughts in Sweden have been on a downtrend for the last 60 years, with quite a bit of variability. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S221458182 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S221458182... Your averages are meaningless if not intentionally misleading. The country is huge ranging from 55°N to 69°N and having four distinct and relatively extreme seasons. It's ridiculous to assert that the droughts down here in the south aren't new, drastic and caused by climate change. The sea water here is virtually room temperature. Don't try to tell me that's normal. Cherry picking through your confirmation bias is no substitute for being here and being able to read our news with access to experts studying and working with exactly this.
- dredmorbius 3y ago
  Keep in mind that "drought" can be highly relative and short-term. For regions which have historically experienced frequent (e.g., daily or weekly) rainfall, even a few days or weeks with no or limited precipitation can induce stress on ecological communities. Deluge / drought patterns (see California's long-term drought and this past rain season's endless atmospheric river storms) actually compound the problem. Looking at long-term averages alone may well mask this effect and its significance.
ardrak 3y ago
People usually get angry with this view, but I think soon enough meat consumption will become too expensive to be viable to most of the population.

roflyear 3y ago

These issues are going to impact livestock around the world - which is a big contributor to global warming. I suppose some issues are self-correcting.

guerrilla 3y ago
Yeah malnutrition and inflation will be great...
BasedAnon 3y ago
If by self-correcting you mean 'killing enough humans until a new equilibrium is reached' sure
- roflyear 3y ago
  Well, you don't need meat to survive.

genman 3y ago

I hope they make canned meat then.

hammock 3y ago

>Never rains anymore Sweden average rainfall seems to be trending up on a 100-year scale. https://tradingeconomics.com/sweden/precipitation https://tradingeconomics.com/sweden/precipitation > We've got drought and fire here in Sweden already Forest fires in Sweden are a complex dynamic and the risk factor from climate change is only one part. Here is an interesting discussion https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10113-020-01718-2 https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10113-020-01718-2 Droughts in Sweden have been on a downtrend for the last 60 years, with quite a bit of variability. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2214581822001847 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S221458182...

limpanz 3y ago
Well it mostly rains during winter in Sweden and for half the country that means snow, so mo chance of forest fires then. The past 10 years there have been more dry years during summer than the past. Also it's usually dry in the most southern parts of sweden, which also accounts for a majority of the food production.
guerrilla 3y ago
> Sweden average rainfall seems to be trending up on a 100-year scale. https://tradingeconomics.com/sweden/precipitation https://tradingeconomics.com/sweden/precipitation > Droughts in Sweden have been on a downtrend for the last 60 years, with quite a bit of variability. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S221458182 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S221458182... Your averages are meaningless if not intentionally misleading. The country is huge ranging from 55°N to 69°N and having four distinct and relatively extreme seasons. It's ridiculous to assert that the droughts down here in the south aren't new, drastic and caused by climate change. The sea water here is virtually room temperature. Don't try to tell me that's normal. Cherry picking through your confirmation bias is no substitute for being here and being able to read our news with access to experts studying and working with exactly this.
dredmorbius 3y ago
Keep in mind that "drought" can be highly relative and short-term. For regions which have historically experienced frequent (e.g., daily or weekly) rainfall, even a few days or weeks with no or limited precipitation can induce stress on ecological communities. Deluge / drought patterns (see California's long-term drought and this past rain season's endless atmospheric river storms) actually compound the problem. Looking at long-term averages alone may well mask this effect and its significance.

ardrak 3y ago

People usually get angry with this view, but I think soon enough meat consumption will become too expensive to be viable to most of the population.