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That's a completely unrelated question.

by orra 3y ago

riku_iki 3y ago
Its totally related question, if new reddit pricing is aligned with industry, then it is fair and reasonable pricing, and apps which go down are those who built little businesses on something reddit provided for free while not contributing back, and who now can't monetize their traffic well enough. Apollo dev can start charging his customers $5/m and cover API costs, but the problem is that his value proposition is too small for such price.
- orra 3y ago
  The question is whether the API pricing is designed to lock out thirty party apps. The pricing being orders of magnitude greater than the revenue from advertisers makes this clear. You say we should ask whether pricing is aligned with the rest of the industry. Well, the new reddit pricing is not far off twitter. The latter are infamous for freezing out third party clients.
  - riku_iki 3y ago
    > The pricing being orders of magnitude greater than the revenue from advertisers Can you share how you came to this statement? > Well, the new reddit pricing is not far off twitter. I asked not about just twitter, but about any similar site you know. For example, imgur which is often referred in this situation actually charges $3k/50m requests, not far from reddit prices: https://rapidapi.com/imgur/api/imgur-9/pricing https://rapidapi.com/imgur/api/imgur-9/pricing If you don't know such example, then reddit pricing is fair and reasonable, and that's apps problem that they can't monetize traffic.
- giantrobot 3y ago
  > and apps which go down are those who built little businesses on something reddit provided for free while not contributing back Holy shit. Reddit's only content is provided by the users. The users of their APIs generate/moderate a non-trivial amount of content that gives anyone a reason to visit Reddit. Suggesting the API users aren't "giving back" is just ludicrous.
  - riku_iki 3y ago
    > Suggesting the API users aren't "giving back" is just ludicrous. and they don't, apollo free app doesn't allow you to post, you need to pay $5 to unlock post feature. Also, obviously, I talked about revenue numbers, not content which already generated far than enough using default reddit app/web.

That's a completely unrelated question.

by orra 3y ago

That's a completely unrelated question.

Its totally related question, if new reddit pricing is aligned with industry, then it is fair and reasonable pricing, and apps which go down are those who built little businesses on something reddit provided for free while not contributing back, and who now can't monetize their traffic well enough. Apollo dev can start charging his customers $5/m and cover API costs, but the problem is that his value proposition is too small for such price.

orra 3y ago
The question is whether the API pricing is designed to lock out thirty party apps. The pricing being orders of magnitude greater than the revenue from advertisers makes this clear. You say we should ask whether pricing is aligned with the rest of the industry. Well, the new reddit pricing is not far off twitter. The latter are infamous for freezing out third party clients.
- riku_iki 3y ago
  > The pricing being orders of magnitude greater than the revenue from advertisers Can you share how you came to this statement? > Well, the new reddit pricing is not far off twitter. I asked not about just twitter, but about any similar site you know. For example, imgur which is often referred in this situation actually charges $3k/50m requests, not far from reddit prices: https://rapidapi.com/imgur/api/imgur-9/pricing https://rapidapi.com/imgur/api/imgur-9/pricing If you don't know such example, then reddit pricing is fair and reasonable, and that's apps problem that they can't monetize traffic.
giantrobot 3y ago
> and apps which go down are those who built little businesses on something reddit provided for free while not contributing back Holy shit. Reddit's only content is provided by the users. The users of their APIs generate/moderate a non-trivial amount of content that gives anyone a reason to visit Reddit. Suggesting the API users aren't "giving back" is just ludicrous.
- riku_iki 3y ago
  > Suggesting the API users aren't "giving back" is just ludicrous. and they don't, apollo free app doesn't allow you to post, you need to pay $5 to unlock post feature. Also, obviously, I talked about revenue numbers, not content which already generated far than enough using default reddit app/web.