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> Public: these would be democratically run forums. The users would actually be able to vote for moderators, and perhaps even rules around them. This would be

> Public: these would be democratically run forums. The users would actually be able to vote for moderators, and perhaps even rules around them. This would be ideal for things like r/[country] or r/[city]. This is my biggest gripe about Reddit. Unlike hobbies or interests, I can't change my country of birth or (easily change) the city. So when you get banned from a geographical sub, you have no alternative. Some of the moderators have a specific bent of mind, and do not accept any other views. A typical example is /r/india which is totally under the control of radical anti-Modi mods. I got even banned from there for posting in another sub _that had been recommended to me by Reddit's algorithm_ !

unpopularopp 3y ago
>A typical example is /r/india which is totally under the control of radical anti-Modi mods Most geographical subs are extremely liberal leaning. I'm from Hungary and in /r/hungary pretty much 99% of the posts are anti-Orban. Same with /r/europe pushing the general federalist EU agenda [0]. Or just /r/politics for the US, good luck going against the MSNBC meta. 0, which ends up funny when the topic is food and suddenly everyone becomes hyper-nationalist
- me_me_me 3y ago
  > I'm from Hungary and in /r/hungary pretty much 99% of the posts are anti-Orban. Younger demographic that is somewhat tech savy, is not happy with Orban? I am shocked! How could that be?
- all2 3y ago
  Forum sliding and bots may be driving these things. Forums are historically pretty easy to manipulate and Reddit isn't so different from other BBs that have been around for decades now.
- tasuki 3y ago
  > I'm from Hungary and in /r/hungary pretty much 99% of the posts are anti-Orban. I'm not from Hungary but I have low opinion of Orban. All the Hungarians I've talked to had nothing but bad things to say about him. Is he well liked or at least tolerated in Hungary?
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echelon 3y ago
Reddit's moderation system is the worst on the internet. No rhyme, no reason, no restitution. You're completely at the mercy of little fiefdoms and people who are sometimes on power trips. I've been banned from my city reddit for simply stating that crime was becoming a problem. I've been banned for supporting trans rights. I've been banned for explaining stock based compensation. For describing and linking to AI tools. Reddit's moderation system is authoritarian and capricious.
- politician 3y ago
  The problem isn't just the petty tyrant fiefdoms, it's also the exclusive claims on generic terms like "news". So, instead of generic news, you find hyperpartisan content on "r/news". Once someone cybersquats on a generic term, other perspectives are forced into qualified subreddits that more accurately describe their bias, "r/conservative". I think it would greatly improve the site if communities using generic terms were instead replaced with disambiguation pages that linked to related communities, and that this process could be triggered automatically so that as terms become generic the communities could be remounted.
- drngdds 3y ago
  Reddit's moderation system is among the best of any big platform because of how easy it is for people to start their own communities if they don't like the moderation on a particular sub. And these new communities actually will get traction if enough people are upset about the original sub's moderation - see the whole meirl vs. me_irl situation for an example of this. (There's also r/gamingcirclejerk vs. r/shittygaming - the original sub still gets more posts, but the large, active discussion thread community moved entirely to the latter because of the former sub having some crazy BS happen with the mods.) You don't get anything like this on big centralized platforms like Twitter or Facebook. If you get banned by their opaque, highly automated moderation systems, you're just out of luck unless you evade the ban. The network effects and the costs of switching off them are just far too high. Good moderation at scale is impossible[0], and the Reddit/Discord/etc model deals with this pretty decently by leaving most decisions to individual communities. [0]https://www.techdirt.com/2019/11/20/masnicks-impossibility-theorem-content-moderation-scale-is-impossible-to-do-well/ https://www.techdirt.com/2019/11/20/masnicks-impossibility-t...

unpopularopp 3y ago

>A typical example is /r/india which is totally under the control of radical anti-Modi mods Most geographical subs are extremely liberal leaning. I'm from Hungary and in /r/hungary pretty much 99% of the posts are anti-Orban. Same with /r/europe pushing the general federalist EU agenda [0]. Or just /r/politics for the US, good luck going against the MSNBC meta. 0, which ends up funny when the topic is food and suddenly everyone becomes hyper-nationalist

me_me_me 3y ago
> I'm from Hungary and in /r/hungary pretty much 99% of the posts are anti-Orban. Younger demographic that is somewhat tech savy, is not happy with Orban? I am shocked! How could that be?
all2 3y ago
Forum sliding and bots may be driving these things. Forums are historically pretty easy to manipulate and Reddit isn't so different from other BBs that have been around for decades now.
tasuki 3y ago
> I'm from Hungary and in /r/hungary pretty much 99% of the posts are anti-Orban. I'm not from Hungary but I have low opinion of Orban. All the Hungarians I've talked to had nothing but bad things to say about him. Is he well liked or at least tolerated in Hungary?
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echelon 3y ago

Reddit's moderation system is the worst on the internet. No rhyme, no reason, no restitution. You're completely at the mercy of little fiefdoms and people who are sometimes on power trips. I've been banned from my city reddit for simply stating that crime was becoming a problem. I've been banned for supporting trans rights. I've been banned for explaining stock based compensation. For describing and linking to AI tools. Reddit's moderation system is authoritarian and capricious.

politician 3y ago
The problem isn't just the petty tyrant fiefdoms, it's also the exclusive claims on generic terms like "news". So, instead of generic news, you find hyperpartisan content on "r/news". Once someone cybersquats on a generic term, other perspectives are forced into qualified subreddits that more accurately describe their bias, "r/conservative". I think it would greatly improve the site if communities using generic terms were instead replaced with disambiguation pages that linked to related communities, and that this process could be triggered automatically so that as terms become generic the communities could be remounted.
drngdds 3y ago
Reddit's moderation system is among the best of any big platform because of how easy it is for people to start their own communities if they don't like the moderation on a particular sub. And these new communities actually will get traction if enough people are upset about the original sub's moderation - see the whole meirl vs. me_irl situation for an example of this. (There's also r/gamingcirclejerk vs. r/shittygaming - the original sub still gets more posts, but the large, active discussion thread community moved entirely to the latter because of the former sub having some crazy BS happen with the mods.) You don't get anything like this on big centralized platforms like Twitter or Facebook. If you get banned by their opaque, highly automated moderation systems, you're just out of luck unless you evade the ban. The network effects and the costs of switching off them are just far too high. Good moderation at scale is impossible[0], and the Reddit/Discord/etc model deals with this pretty decently by leaving most decisions to individual communities. [0]https://www.techdirt.com/2019/11/20/masnicks-impossibility-theorem-content-moderation-scale-is-impossible-to-do-well/ https://www.techdirt.com/2019/11/20/masnicks-impossibility-t...