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The one being promoted the most on migrations subreddits is Kbin (particularly kbin.social for sign-up). It federates with Lemmy as well - apparently some folks

The one being promoted the most on migrations subreddits is Kbin (particularly kbin.social for sign-up). It federates with Lemmy as well - apparently some folks think the Lemmy devs have questionable moral character so decided not to promote Lemmy as a primary option (hell if I know, didn't look into it). That Kbin instance is getting slammed and trying to scale up right now - many identical /r/{subreddit} are now available at /m/{subreddit} (m for magazine) thanks to some of the prior subreddit mods I guess?

SkyMarshal 3y ago
Seems there are complaints about both dev teams - Kbin devs are apparently fascists or something in that vicinity, and Lemmy devs are apparently tankies or something in that vicinity.
- all2 3y ago
  Labels and infighting is easy. I wonder if they are actually fascists or tankies. Also, what is a "tanky"?
  - cheald 3y ago
    "Tankies" is a perjorative for hardline communists, particularly Stalinists.
  - shagie 3y ago
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tankie https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tankie > Tankie is a pejorative label for communists, particularly Stalinists, who support the authoritarian tendencies of Marxism–Leninism or, more generally, authoritarian states associated with Marxism–Leninism in history. The term was originally used by dissident Marxist–Leninists to describe members of the Communist Party of Great Britain (CPGB) who followed the party line of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union (CPSU). Specifically, it was used to distinguish party members who spoke out in defense of the Soviet use of tanks to crush the Hungarian Revolution of 1956 and the 1968 Prague Spring uprising, or who more broadly adhered to pro-Soviet positions. --- It's been expanded to include those who support other authoritarian left political philosophies. It tends to be anti American. A quick rule of thumb is "if you picture the parades in the country featuring a large number of tanks, those who support them are likely pejoratively called 'tankies'".
  - SkyMarshal 3y ago
    Tanky is a far left authoritarian, or apologist for far-left authoritarianism. Roughly the leftist counterpart to fascist.
    - rbreaves 3y ago
      Tbh I want to know their country of origin - if it’s the US then that’s likely bs being spouted by conservatives imho. I feel like the left, even far left in the US are all anti authoritarianism, so it’s bizarre reading that. Reading up on it I guess the main instances moderation does not live up to their rules & is what the issue is about. Whether they’re really in support of being anti-human rights or just incompetent at moderation I dunno. I hope the latter vs the former, guess we’ll figure it out over time - which communities will be ran well vs the ones that aren’t.
- ollien 3y ago
  I've heard about the Lemmy dev's politics, but what's this about the Kbin devs?
  - SkyMarshal 3y ago
    There was some discussion and links about it in the “Building a Better Rust Community” post yesterday. The post is inaccessible today due the protest against reddit, but will be back tmw. https://old.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/146qxzn/building_a_better_rrust_together/ https://old.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/146qxzn/building_a_be...
    - SSLy 3y ago
      https://web.archive.org/web/20230611155109/https://old.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/146qxzn/building_a_better_rrust_together/ https://web.archive.org/web/20230611155109/https://old.reddi...
    - SkyMarshal 3y ago
      Or it might have been in the Neovim post, not sure. Still dark atm though, and no archive link for it: https://old.reddit.com/r/neovim/comments/1445lf2/hey_guys_lets_talk_community/ https://old.reddit.com/r/neovim/comments/1445lf2/hey_guys_le...
- TheCondor 3y ago
  As a matter of policy? Like you can't work on one of these platforms if you don't comply with their ideology? Or more like "this is the shitty place we've come to as a society?..." I wonder how many extremists contributed to the reddit code base over the years.
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brightball 3y ago
I do like the public moderation log. https://kbin.social/modlog https://kbin.social/modlog

SkyMarshal 3y ago

Seems there are complaints about both dev teams - Kbin devs are apparently fascists or something in that vicinity, and Lemmy devs are apparently tankies or something in that vicinity.

all2 3y ago
Labels and infighting is easy. I wonder if they are actually fascists or tankies. Also, what is a "tanky"?
- cheald 3y ago
  "Tankies" is a perjorative for hardline communists, particularly Stalinists.
- shagie 3y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tankie https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tankie > Tankie is a pejorative label for communists, particularly Stalinists, who support the authoritarian tendencies of Marxism–Leninism or, more generally, authoritarian states associated with Marxism–Leninism in history. The term was originally used by dissident Marxist–Leninists to describe members of the Communist Party of Great Britain (CPGB) who followed the party line of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union (CPSU). Specifically, it was used to distinguish party members who spoke out in defense of the Soviet use of tanks to crush the Hungarian Revolution of 1956 and the 1968 Prague Spring uprising, or who more broadly adhered to pro-Soviet positions. --- It's been expanded to include those who support other authoritarian left political philosophies. It tends to be anti American. A quick rule of thumb is "if you picture the parades in the country featuring a large number of tanks, those who support them are likely pejoratively called 'tankies'".
- SkyMarshal 3y ago
  Tanky is a far left authoritarian, or apologist for far-left authoritarianism. Roughly the leftist counterpart to fascist.
  - rbreaves 3y ago
    Tbh I want to know their country of origin - if it’s the US then that’s likely bs being spouted by conservatives imho. I feel like the left, even far left in the US are all anti authoritarianism, so it’s bizarre reading that. Reading up on it I guess the main instances moderation does not live up to their rules & is what the issue is about. Whether they’re really in support of being anti-human rights or just incompetent at moderation I dunno. I hope the latter vs the former, guess we’ll figure it out over time - which communities will be ran well vs the ones that aren’t.
ollien 3y ago
I've heard about the Lemmy dev's politics, but what's this about the Kbin devs?
- SkyMarshal 3y ago
  There was some discussion and links about it in the “Building a Better Rust Community” post yesterday. The post is inaccessible today due the protest against reddit, but will be back tmw. https://old.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/146qxzn/building_a_better_rrust_together/ https://old.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/146qxzn/building_a_be...
  - SSLy 3y ago
    https://web.archive.org/web/20230611155109/https://old.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/146qxzn/building_a_better_rrust_together/ https://web.archive.org/web/20230611155109/https://old.reddi...
  - SkyMarshal 3y ago
    Or it might have been in the Neovim post, not sure. Still dark atm though, and no archive link for it: https://old.reddit.com/r/neovim/comments/1445lf2/hey_guys_lets_talk_community/ https://old.reddit.com/r/neovim/comments/1445lf2/hey_guys_le...
TheCondor 3y ago
As a matter of policy? Like you can't work on one of these platforms if you don't comply with their ideology? Or more like "this is the shitty place we've come to as a society?..." I wonder how many extremists contributed to the reddit code base over the years.

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brightball 3y ago

I do like the public moderation log. https://kbin.social/modlog https://kbin.social/modlog