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> I don't know what people are talking about. Easy: as an engineer, my father in his late 30's could support my mother being a SAHM, three kids, buy a 120m² (I
by shakow 3y ago
> I don't know what people are talking about.
Easy: as an engineer, my father in his late 30's could support my mother being a SAHM, three kids, buy a 120m² (IIRC?) small house with a garden, and all the modern commodities (well, safe for electronics that didn't exist at the time).
Nowadays, I'm also an engineer in my mid 30's, and I can just buy a 40m² flat. Never talk about kids.
- geysersam 3y agoWhat about location? A flat in an attractive area can be much more expensive than a house somewhere else.
- shakow 3y agoThe same city actually (by chance more than anything).
- treis 3y agoBut that's not a generalizable like for like comparisons. Yes, cities are more expensive today but they're also not crack induced hellscapes. Crack induced hellscape is obviously an exaggeration but cities were legitimately much worse. Violet crime was 2-3 times higher, pollution was terrible, and they were generally not very nice. It's not a surprise they were cheaper to live in back then. The houses I grew up in are more affordable today then they were when my parents bought them. Inflation adjusted price is about the same but interest rates were far higher.
- shakow 3y agoI have no idea where you live, but that does not really reflect what's happening in my country (France). Criminality rates are roughly stables since the 80's (https://www.alternatives-economiques.fr/sites/default/files/public/media/20100701/A293041A.GIF https://www.alternatives-economiques.fr/sites/default/files/...), French cities in the 80's were definitely not ‶crack-induced hellscapes″ (and if they ever were, it's definitely now, just visit Paris or Marseille by night), and safe for pollution, I don't think they were notably worst or better to live in than now.
- geysersam 3y agoAre the areas similarly attractive?
- kiklion 3y agoHaving a SAHP is always a difficult thing to compare to todays world. A lot of people can’t have a SAHP because their peers don’t have a SAHP. When your peers are willing and able to spend more on housing and cars… then you have to get the second income to keep up with them or accept a lifestyle more in line with lower income people (except with a SAHP).