> seamless interop with C like objective-c "without the C"... ;-) And of course it's not really "seamless inter with C", because Objective-C just is C, or m

> seamless interop with C like objective-c "without the C"... ;-) And of course it's not really "seamless inter with C", because Objective-C just is C, or more specifically a superset of C. It's sort of "interop with yourself". Of course, most Objective-C programmers do treat C as a distinct language, and one that they won't touch. Which is interesting. And you are right, the article wasn't really about whether it is a better language overall, particularly not from the grass root user perspective. It was about the specific aspect of being an "Objective-C without the C". Which, of course, is just Smalltalk when taken literally. But if you just use Smalltalk, you lose Objective-C's capability of going really fast as well (and the interop). Of course using Python instead of Smalltalk as the base is sad, but it is understandable given the market that they're going for.