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Could you please elaborate on what atrocities were caused by conspiracy theories?

panarchy 3y ago
https://www.stuyalumni.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/Anti-Asian-ppt.pdf https://www.stuyalumni.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/Anti-A... "In the first four months of the pandemic, there were 145 reports to the NYC Commission on Human Rights of coronavirus-related Anti-Asian hate incidents. That’s 12x the year before." "⅓ of Americans report they have witnessed blame on Asians for the outbreak"
- gordian-mind 3y ago
  I'm sorry, is saying that Covid originated from China a conspiracy theory? Or do you maybe believe that this was caused by Trump calling it 'China flu' a few times? Now, that's a conspiracy theory.
krapp 3y ago
The obvious example is the Holocaust. Violence (including mass shootings and church burnings) inspired by replacement theory and incelism. Anti-vax beliefs led to more deaths due to COVID, and greater economic and systemic stress than otherwise would have occurred had a significant number of people afraid of adrenochrome harvesting and the New World Order not purposely undermined pandemic control efforts. Currently the "groomer" conspiracy theories seem to be headed towards some mass cultural violence event towards trangender people, with politicians openly calling for the "elimination" of transgerism, but that remains to be seen. But let's ask what atrocities have ever been prevented by conspiracy theories? None. QAnon has been more of a hindrance to efforts to combat child abuse and human trafficking than a benefit, and they were entirely focused on "decoding" the Podesta emails and "exposing" satanic rituals in the Democratic Party while Epstein was going about his business. It should go without saying that none of the doomsday scenarios the COVID conspiracy theorists predicted came to pass. All they accomplished was making the pandemic worse. And no doubt the seeds of paranoia and mistrust they laid will make the next pandemic worse as well. Hell, even MKUltra wasn't uncovered by conspiracy theorists - it was exposed by accident through an unrelated FOIA leak. NSA spying? The Simpsons did a bit about that before Snowden, but conspiracy theorists were going on about mind-control rays being beamed through televisions and mass hypnosis. These people want the world to believe they are the the ones constantly telling truth to power, the only ones who can see the dark truths hidden behind the curtain, and they'll insist they are always right. But at best they only coincidentally appear to be right, in the same way as a stopped clock, and always in a way that does more harm than good.
- mistermann 3y ago
  As a conspiracy theorist, it kind of burns my britches to be mocked by a clairvoyant in public and not be able to do anything about it. May you live in interesting times indeed.
  - krapp 3y ago
    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Do what any other conspiracy theorist would and just call me a naive sheep or a disinfo agent and go on about your business. I do live in "interesting" times, thanks. In no small part because of the efforts of people like yourself.
caeril 3y ago
The canonical example is January 6th, in which a bunch of unarmed QAnon conspiracy theorists, along with embedded agent provocateurs from the FBI, committed the following atrocities: 1. Larped as a Viking 2. Stole a podium 3. Placed feet on a desk 4. Broke a window 5. Caused a woman, who was not in the same building, to cry There were several other terrible acts committed by these evil people, but these were the most commonly cited ones. Sicknick's death was widely publicized at first, but then magically got blackholed later when it turned out that a group of QAnon-influenced platelets formed a blood clot that killed the poor patriot. Fortunately for us, these evil insurrectionists were denied their due process rights for years, and our hallowed and beloved Congress members spent a full month of their valuable time on hearings to get to the bottom of this genocide. January 6th: Never Again.
Communitivity 3y ago
As public awareness of HIV increased and became the AIDS Crisis, so too did incidents of attacks on homosexuals. "What man does not understand, he fears; and what he fears, he tends to destroy." - William Butler Yeats Plenty of sources on the uptick in attacks during the AIDS crisis, but here are three: * https://review.gale.com/2017/05/17/the-homophobic-aids-crisis-of-the-1980s/ https://review.gale.com/2017/05/17/the-homophobic-aids-crisi... * https://www.apa.org/pi/aids/resources/exchange/2012/04/discrimination-homophobia https://www.apa.org/pi/aids/resources/exchange/2012/04/discr... * https://www.nytimes.com/1986/11/23/us/violence-against-homosexuals-rising-groups-seeking-wider-protection-say.html https://www.nytimes.com/1986/11/23/us/violence-against-homos...

https://www.stuyalumni.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/Anti-Asian-ppt.pdf https://www.stuyalumni.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/Anti-A... "In the first four months of the pandemic, there were 145 reports to the NYC Commission on Human Rights of coronavirus-related Anti-Asian hate incidents. That’s 12x the year before." "⅓ of Americans report they have witnessed blame on Asians for the outbreak"

gordian-mind 3y ago
I'm sorry, is saying that Covid originated from China a conspiracy theory? Or do you maybe believe that this was caused by Trump calling it 'China flu' a few times? Now, that's a conspiracy theory.

krapp 3y ago

The obvious example is the Holocaust. Violence (including mass shootings and church burnings) inspired by replacement theory and incelism. Anti-vax beliefs led to more deaths due to COVID, and greater economic and systemic stress than otherwise would have occurred had a significant number of people afraid of adrenochrome harvesting and the New World Order not purposely undermined pandemic control efforts. Currently the "groomer" conspiracy theories seem to be headed towards some mass cultural violence event towards trangender people, with politicians openly calling for the "elimination" of transgerism, but that remains to be seen. But let's ask what atrocities have ever been prevented by conspiracy theories? None. QAnon has been more of a hindrance to efforts to combat child abuse and human trafficking than a benefit, and they were entirely focused on "decoding" the Podesta emails and "exposing" satanic rituals in the Democratic Party while Epstein was going about his business. It should go without saying that none of the doomsday scenarios the COVID conspiracy theorists predicted came to pass. All they accomplished was making the pandemic worse. And no doubt the seeds of paranoia and mistrust they laid will make the next pandemic worse as well. Hell, even MKUltra wasn't uncovered by conspiracy theorists - it was exposed by accident through an unrelated FOIA leak. NSA spying? The Simpsons did a bit about that before Snowden, but conspiracy theorists were going on about mind-control rays being beamed through televisions and mass hypnosis. These people want the world to believe they are the the ones constantly telling truth to power, the only ones who can see the dark truths hidden behind the curtain, and they'll insist they are always right. But at best they only coincidentally appear to be right, in the same way as a stopped clock, and always in a way that does more harm than good.

mistermann 3y ago
As a conspiracy theorist, it kind of burns my britches to be mocked by a clairvoyant in public and not be able to do anything about it. May you live in interesting times indeed.
- krapp 3y ago
  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Do what any other conspiracy theorist would and just call me a naive sheep or a disinfo agent and go on about your business. I do live in "interesting" times, thanks. In no small part because of the efforts of people like yourself.

caeril 3y ago

The canonical example is January 6th, in which a bunch of unarmed QAnon conspiracy theorists, along with embedded agent provocateurs from the FBI, committed the following atrocities: 1. Larped as a Viking 2. Stole a podium 3. Placed feet on a desk 4. Broke a window 5. Caused a woman, who was not in the same building, to cry There were several other terrible acts committed by these evil people, but these were the most commonly cited ones. Sicknick's death was widely publicized at first, but then magically got blackholed later when it turned out that a group of QAnon-influenced platelets formed a blood clot that killed the poor patriot. Fortunately for us, these evil insurrectionists were denied their due process rights for years, and our hallowed and beloved Congress members spent a full month of their valuable time on hearings to get to the bottom of this genocide. January 6th: Never Again.

Communitivity 3y ago

As public awareness of HIV increased and became the AIDS Crisis, so too did incidents of attacks on homosexuals. "What man does not understand, he fears; and what he fears, he tends to destroy." - William Butler Yeats Plenty of sources on the uptick in attacks during the AIDS crisis, but here are three: * https://review.gale.com/2017/05/17/the-homophobic-aids-crisis-of-the-1980s/ https://review.gale.com/2017/05/17/the-homophobic-aids-crisi... * https://www.apa.org/pi/aids/resources/exchange/2012/04/discrimination-homophobia https://www.apa.org/pi/aids/resources/exchange/2012/04/discr... * https://www.nytimes.com/1986/11/23/us/violence-against-homosexuals-rising-groups-seeking-wider-protection-say.html https://www.nytimes.com/1986/11/23/us/violence-against-homos...