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It's because the majority of Westerners, especially Americans, have at best a comic-like understanding of "strange" countries like Russia.

by tazjin 3y ago

ceejayoz 3y ago
Yet the article cites a concrete example of similar sanctions causing exactly that problem. > For instance, when a Norwegian 737-8 MAX diverted to Shiraz, Iran in December 2018, the aircraft sat on the ground in Iran for 70 days. Much of that time was spent arranging an export license for a CFM LEAP1-B engine for the stricken aircraft. “It’s gonna be stuck there for some time” doesn’t appear to be a comical understanding of the situation.
- tazjin 3y ago
  Thinking that passengers will get taken hostage is a comical understanding of the situation. It's also pretty funny that you're referring to a self-imposed problem by the West as an example for an issue with the non-West.
  - sofixa 3y ago
    > Thinking that passengers will get taken hostage is a comical understanding of the situation. Are we talking about the same Russia that is engaged in a genocide against it's neighbour? The one that purposefully destroys civilian infrastructure to cause death and suffering? Kidnaps children? Did multiple false flag operations against it's own civilians? Murders journalists and dissidents, even abroad, in brutal ways, with nerve agents and radioactive materials? That Russia, right? Taking civilians from an airliner hostage wouldn't even get close to the top 10 of their state organised terror acts in the past 2 years...
    - SomeoneWithAnS 3y ago
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      - sofixa 3y ago
        Please, feel free to refute any points with proof. On top of the tons of video and personal evidence we have confirming them, pretty much all of them have been admitted by Russian officials directly - they have admitted to the kidnapping and resettling of children, the intentional bombing of civilian infrastructure, destroying the dam, etc. Of course considering the comical levels of evilness Russia has displayed in this war, things could easily slip through because they're believable. I'm not fully convinced on Nordstream either way, but there's undeniable proof for lots of other atrocities (like the dam) which is more than enough.
        SomeoneWithAnS 3y ago
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It's because the majority of Westerners, especially Americans, have at best a comic-like understanding of "strange" countries like Russia.

by tazjin 3y ago

It's because the majority of Westerners, especially Americans, have at best a comic-like understanding of "strange" countries like Russia.

ceejayoz 3y ago

Yet the article cites a concrete example of similar sanctions causing exactly that problem. > For instance, when a Norwegian 737-8 MAX diverted to Shiraz, Iran in December 2018, the aircraft sat on the ground in Iran for 70 days. Much of that time was spent arranging an export license for a CFM LEAP1-B engine for the stricken aircraft. “It’s gonna be stuck there for some time” doesn’t appear to be a comical understanding of the situation.

tazjin 3y ago
Thinking that passengers will get taken hostage is a comical understanding of the situation. It's also pretty funny that you're referring to a self-imposed problem by the West as an example for an issue with the non-West.
- sofixa 3y ago
  > Thinking that passengers will get taken hostage is a comical understanding of the situation. Are we talking about the same Russia that is engaged in a genocide against it's neighbour? The one that purposefully destroys civilian infrastructure to cause death and suffering? Kidnaps children? Did multiple false flag operations against it's own civilians? Murders journalists and dissidents, even abroad, in brutal ways, with nerve agents and radioactive materials? That Russia, right? Taking civilians from an airliner hostage wouldn't even get close to the top 10 of their state organised terror acts in the past 2 years...
  - SomeoneWithAnS 3y ago
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    - sofixa 3y ago
      Please, feel free to refute any points with proof. On top of the tons of video and personal evidence we have confirming them, pretty much all of them have been admitted by Russian officials directly - they have admitted to the kidnapping and resettling of children, the intentional bombing of civilian infrastructure, destroying the dam, etc. Of course considering the comical levels of evilness Russia has displayed in this war, things could easily slip through because they're believable. I'm not fully convinced on Nordstream either way, but there's undeniable proof for lots of other atrocities (like the dam) which is more than enough.
      - SomeoneWithAnS 3y ago
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