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There's something to be said about modern political and legal systems that these rotten to the core people can gain and maintain power for so many years, in spi

by imiric 3y ago

There's something to be said about modern political and legal systems that these rotten to the core people can gain and maintain power for so many years, in spite of the obvious wrongdoings on every level. What is the problem here? The law being complicit? Extremely effective charisma and propaganda? Politics is full of these characters, and it seems that the more awful they are, the higher up the ranks they go. It's like humans are conditioned to celebrate the worst in people, and the pessimistic concern that this will never change is quite powerful.

ur-whale 3y ago
> What is the problem here? The answer is quite simple: as rotten as the likes of Berlusconi and Trump may be, the folks on the opposite side (e.g. Hillary) are simply just as rotten and despicable. As a voter you are then left with a choice of rotten or rotten ... their despicability sort of cancels out, and your choice then hinges on their secondary characteristics such as : are they right or left leaning.
- imiric 3y ago
  Right, but there's a long road for getting to be President. These people need to be elected for lower ranked positions, or in the case of celebrities, spend years in the public eye. There's seemingly no wrong a person can do that money and charisma can't be used to gain influence and power. And at some point it becomes a reinforcing loop that eventually leads them to rule over countries. I'd like to understand why this is such a foolproof road for many politicians. It must be ingrained in us as a species. This comedy sketch comes to mind: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3zNLfmDm-0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3zNLfmDm-0 (warning: crude humor)
gpderetta 3y ago
> What is the problem here? The law being complicit? Extremely effective charisma and propaganda? Being in charge of making the law helps, but charisma and propaganda gets you in that position in the first place.

by imiric 3y ago

ur-whale 3y ago

> What is the problem here? The answer is quite simple: as rotten as the likes of Berlusconi and Trump may be, the folks on the opposite side (e.g. Hillary) are simply just as rotten and despicable. As a voter you are then left with a choice of rotten or rotten ... their despicability sort of cancels out, and your choice then hinges on their secondary characteristics such as : are they right or left leaning.

imiric 3y ago
Right, but there's a long road for getting to be President. These people need to be elected for lower ranked positions, or in the case of celebrities, spend years in the public eye. There's seemingly no wrong a person can do that money and charisma can't be used to gain influence and power. And at some point it becomes a reinforcing loop that eventually leads them to rule over countries. I'd like to understand why this is such a foolproof road for many politicians. It must be ingrained in us as a species. This comedy sketch comes to mind: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3zNLfmDm-0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3zNLfmDm-0 (warning: crude humor)

gpderetta 3y ago

> What is the problem here? The law being complicit? Extremely effective charisma and propaganda? Being in charge of making the law helps, but charisma and propaganda gets you in that position in the first place.