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Aren't politicians with ties to the mafia quite common?

paganel 3y ago
Like the recent Scottish First Minister Nicola Sturgeon getting arrested a couple of days ago (and released, for the time being).
- flir 3y ago
  Mafia? Sturgeon? Are you serious?
  - hbbio 3y ago
    Amounts for Sturgeon are indeed so low. For 100s of millions, I'd rather look at us politicians ("Democrats") that trade stock and receive large paychecks from corporations... In exchange of what exactly?
- mathieuh 3y ago
  Seems like a fairly straightforward misappropriation of party funds at this point, I don't think there's any suggestion she was playing around with taxpayer money
- pjc50 3y ago
  It is an odd consequence of the free speech and contempt of court laws in both countries that we can see inside the US president's house and look at the pile of illegal documents, while, sitting here in Scotland, the charges against Sturgeon remain extremely vague and it's basically illegal to discuss whether there is any substance to them.
  - NoRelToEmber 3y ago
    > it's basically illegal to discuss whether there is any substance to them. Could you elaborate?
    - darkr 3y ago
      UK contempt of court laws prohibit "publications" from influencing any future trial (publications taken to mean any communication addressed to the public - including twitter etc).
- mandmandam 3y ago
  Of all the examples of 'possibly mafia connected' politicians, you chose Sturgeon?! Literally lol.
  - paganel 3y ago
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    - mandmandam 3y ago
      > the politicians are the real mafia Mate. The mafia is a real thing already. Yes, politicians engage in some incredibly corrupt shit. Kids in cages for profit, starting wars based on lies to funnel trillion into banks, selling tens or hundreds of billions in arms to bonesaw-wielding dictator Kings, trading guns for drugs with gangs, etc. Yes, the mafia and other gangs literally own some politicians. And vice versa, for sure. BUT! Sturgeon is just about the most milquetoast possible example you could ever have chosen. EVEN IF the allegations against her are true, which is far from proven afaict.
camillomiller 3y ago
Aren't politician with ties quite common?
wlecometo 3y ago
no they are not, unless by mafia you are generalizing the term "organized chrime"
- ekianjo 3y ago
  That seems like what a person affiliated with politicians would say :-)

Like the recent Scottish First Minister Nicola Sturgeon getting arrested a couple of days ago (and released, for the time being).

flir 3y ago
Mafia? Sturgeon? Are you serious?
- hbbio 3y ago
  Amounts for Sturgeon are indeed so low. For 100s of millions, I'd rather look at us politicians ("Democrats") that trade stock and receive large paychecks from corporations... In exchange of what exactly?
mathieuh 3y ago
Seems like a fairly straightforward misappropriation of party funds at this point, I don't think there's any suggestion she was playing around with taxpayer money
pjc50 3y ago
It is an odd consequence of the free speech and contempt of court laws in both countries that we can see inside the US president's house and look at the pile of illegal documents, while, sitting here in Scotland, the charges against Sturgeon remain extremely vague and it's basically illegal to discuss whether there is any substance to them.
- NoRelToEmber 3y ago
  > it's basically illegal to discuss whether there is any substance to them. Could you elaborate?
  - darkr 3y ago
    UK contempt of court laws prohibit "publications" from influencing any future trial (publications taken to mean any communication addressed to the public - including twitter etc).
mandmandam 3y ago
Of all the examples of 'possibly mafia connected' politicians, you chose Sturgeon?! Literally lol.
- paganel 3y ago
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  - mandmandam 3y ago
    > the politicians are the real mafia Mate. The mafia is a real thing already. Yes, politicians engage in some incredibly corrupt shit. Kids in cages for profit, starting wars based on lies to funnel trillion into banks, selling tens or hundreds of billions in arms to bonesaw-wielding dictator Kings, trading guns for drugs with gangs, etc. Yes, the mafia and other gangs literally own some politicians. And vice versa, for sure. BUT! Sturgeon is just about the most milquetoast possible example you could ever have chosen. EVEN IF the allegations against her are true, which is far from proven afaict.

camillomiller 3y ago

Aren't politician with ties quite common?

wlecometo 3y ago

no they are not, unless by mafia you are generalizing the term "organized chrime"

ekianjo 3y ago
That seems like what a person affiliated with politicians would say :-)