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Some people are and will always be assholes, dishonest, crooks, borderline criminals. We shouldn't all be imprisoned in the office because management is incapab
by MichaelRo 3y ago
Some people are and will always be assholes, dishonest, crooks, borderline criminals. We shouldn't all be imprisoned in the office because management is incapable of at least dealing with these offenders.
After COVID we switched to almost 100% work from home. Office became mandatory 3 days a week but only on paper. In practice workers applied "passive aggressive" method, just didn't show up. And management didn't do squat since most of them were also working from home.
But I did have bad apples as colleagues. One guy in my team would be idle for long swathes of time although it would appear "green" on Teams - first sign someone's an asshole: they put a mouse move program but don't reply for hours. At least be honest and let your status be idle when you're not at your desk - we're all humans and I get that. Anyhow problem wasn't as much that he wasn't at his desk, when sometime I did manage to contact him in dire need of some crosscheck on the project we had to deliver, guy exceeded himself in being a passive aggressive jerk: he'd reply one or two questions then just disappear again IN MIDDLE OF A SENTENCE. For hours on end. Like I'm talking with him, ask him something, replies so I know he's there, immediately I ask him something else and he's gone. Sometimes until next day.
At some point I blew a gasket on him, called him on Teams when he was accidentally available and unloaded dicks and Christs and Gods and what else involves swearing in my native language. He was much more responsive for about two days then reverted to default behavior.
I thought of reporting him to my manager but I knew it would be useless. I tried naming things before in daily scrum with the management and upper management and didn't go well, reckoned what I need to do to keep my job. Eventually the company tanked and fired everyone (me included), so at least there's some divine justice. I found a new job in less than a week nevertheless, being around since the 1970s these guys might be more sensible than my previous employer.
I guess the moral of the story is: when bottom layer workers are dishonest, management pulls the strings and gets them in line. But what do you do when management itself is corrupted to the core? ... which I think is by far the rule rather than the exception. Who is policing "the police"?
- haspok 3y ago> One guy in my team would be idle for long swathes of time although it would appear "green" on Teams - first sign someone's an asshole: they put a mouse move program but don't reply for hours. Maybe his job was not to be on standby for your service 8 hours a day. Maybe he also had a job to do? Why would he be obliged to reply to your messages immediately? The whole point of Slack / Teams communication is that it can be async, meaning you can ask people something and they will get back to you when it is convenient for THEM, not for YOU. If urgent, just call.
- MichaelRo 3y ago>> Maybe he also had a job to do? Yeah, he had a second job, that's what he had. In parallel to running a brick and store business (set up a bar and organized events).
- goofy_goober 3y agoSometimes I just leave people on read for a bit because I have more important things to be dealing with. This happens to me too sometimes with people leaving me on read,and I understand because there is almost always something more important than whatever someone is messaging about. If it were important, they would have told me explicitly or sent a meeting request. I sincerely doubt everything you were asking this guy was very important, so perhaps you need to learn how to handle more of your own issues and ask more people for help other than that one guy. It is not that guy's job to do your job; it is your job to do your job.
- MichaelRo 3y agoStrangely that it worked well with the vast majority of other team members, except for liars and scum who couldn't even handle properly having multiple jobs and not giving a fuck.