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2023 is an exceptional year for multiple climate related issues which is in line with predictions regarding the increasing probabilities of such events. We pro

2023 is an exceptional year for multiple climate related issues which is in line with predictions regarding the increasing probabilities of such events. We probably should readjust what we consider normal to something veering further from the past years average and prepare for more extreme scenarios. Also we probably should keep working on managing our emission of greenhouse gas to avoid things getting even worse. As an aside, I don’t get all the people loudly expressing being depressed about the graphs and whatever. This is in line with predictions. People knew that was going to happen. It’s pretty useless to bemoan things which are unavoidable.

flir 3y ago
Death is unavoidable. Death still makes me sad.
Timon3 3y ago
> As an aside, I don’t get all the people loudly expressing being depressed about the graphs and whatever. This is in line with predictions. People knew that was going to happen. It’s pretty useless to bemoan things which are unavoidable. Humans aren't robots. We don't just have feelings connected to surprising events, but also to unsurprising ones. Why should people not have feelings on this topic?
- SideburnsOfDoom 3y ago
  There is not actually a contradiction between "people can have feelings on the topic" and "the feelings are, in themselves, pretty useless".
  - Timon3 3y ago
    There is a strong contradiction between those sentences, because feelings aren't useful or useless. They just are. You are calling them useless, but that doesn't make them useless. You can say that feelings are useless in reaching a specific goal, but that is not what you initially said.
    - SideburnsOfDoom 3y ago
      Initially? What is it that you think that "I initially said" ?
      - Timon3 3y ago
        Sorry, not you, I meant GP.
mcv 3y ago
> As an aside, I don’t get all the people loudly expressing being depressed about the graphs and whatever. This is in line with predictions. People knew that was going to happen. It’s pretty useless to bemoan things which are unavoidable. One tweet said he wasn't so much depressed about this happening, but about people doing nothing to stop it. We've known this for over century, have had political debates about it for 3 decades, have made agreements to reduce our carbon emissions, but our carbon output keeps growing, and temperatures keep rising, and new coal power plants keep getting built. We should have banned coal and oil power plants 2 decades ago. We should be investing only in emission-free power plants. We should have made fossil fuels too expensive to use for any purpose for which there are viable alternatives. We haven't done those things, and we're not going to do them any time soon, so these graphs will continue to get even worse in the future. That's what's depressing.

flir 3y ago

Death is unavoidable. Death still makes me sad.

Timon3 3y ago

> As an aside, I don’t get all the people loudly expressing being depressed about the graphs and whatever. This is in line with predictions. People knew that was going to happen. It’s pretty useless to bemoan things which are unavoidable. Humans aren't robots. We don't just have feelings connected to surprising events, but also to unsurprising ones. Why should people not have feelings on this topic?

SideburnsOfDoom 3y ago
There is not actually a contradiction between "people can have feelings on the topic" and "the feelings are, in themselves, pretty useless".
- Timon3 3y ago
  There is a strong contradiction between those sentences, because feelings aren't useful or useless. They just are. You are calling them useless, but that doesn't make them useless. You can say that feelings are useless in reaching a specific goal, but that is not what you initially said.
  - SideburnsOfDoom 3y ago
    Initially? What is it that you think that "I initially said" ?
    - Timon3 3y ago
      Sorry, not you, I meant GP.

mcv 3y ago

> As an aside, I don’t get all the people loudly expressing being depressed about the graphs and whatever. This is in line with predictions. People knew that was going to happen. It’s pretty useless to bemoan things which are unavoidable. One tweet said he wasn't so much depressed about this happening, but about people doing nothing to stop it. We've known this for over century, have had political debates about it for 3 decades, have made agreements to reduce our carbon emissions, but our carbon output keeps growing, and temperatures keep rising, and new coal power plants keep getting built. We should have banned coal and oil power plants 2 decades ago. We should be investing only in emission-free power plants. We should have made fossil fuels too expensive to use for any purpose for which there are viable alternatives. We haven't done those things, and we're not going to do them any time soon, so these graphs will continue to get even worse in the future. That's what's depressing.