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Meh, I wouldn't be so quick to judge. I'm a mod of a several-million-subscriber subreddit (one that's likely highly popular among HN subscribers). When we asked

by querez 3y ago

Meh, I wouldn't be so quick to judge. I'm a mod of a several-million-subscriber subreddit (one that's likely highly popular among HN subscribers). When we asked our community if they wanted to join the protest, the answer was a very resounding "yes, but 2 days aren't going to cut it"... So we're still debating when/IF we're going to return after going dark. To add, all the mods are tired and don't have enough time to dedicate to the subreddit as it is (with mod-tools working, which won't be the case after the API changes). Only time will tell, but we're most likely only reactivating our subreddit once reddit signals clear willingness to ease on their squeeze. By which time a lot of damage (in terms of subscribers moving on) will be done. Also, some of the mods have said they won't come back after this, as this was the final drop in the bucket and they'll delete their account today. So all in all, there is some hope that this does serious damage to reddit (at this point, they're clearly seen as the enemy by a lot of us). Talking to mods at other very large subreddits, we're not the only ones thinking along these lines.

davidgerard 3y ago
same here. r/sneerclub (18.5k) wouldn't have joined without overwhelming community support. Only question is whether to come back in two days. Also I think everyone on the sub knows very well it's a complete waste of time lol
- theobromananda 3y ago
  Thank you dgerard, you are doing (acausal robot) god's work.
- deleted 3y ago
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safety1st 3y ago
If you don't stay on Reddit where will you go? I'm eager to join communities that are moving to something less user hostile than Reddit. Bonus for anything OSS or federated.
- querez 3y ago
  That's not really decided yet. Without going into too much detail, a lot of our moderators are not as engaged as they once were: Eternal September has washed out many of our core contributers long ago, and the subreddit's focus has shifted over the years. Mostly to topics that (IMO) most mods don't care too much about (self-promotion, "beginner friendly content" instead of expert discussion, fluff...). So in my view, most of the subreddit is in strong decline and is just not "the place it used to be". With several million subscribers, I feel like it's very hard to foster a real sense of community. And once you hit a certain popularity, the amount of newcomers will always be larger than the "core", and good content erodes from there. I guess that's true of a lot of reddit, though. We could've tried harder to prevent this (or guide our community), but at the time we felt that "hands off" was a better moderation approach, and now it's likely impossible to change that course. Anyways, IMO most of the really interesting discussion on the topic happens on twitter already. My best guess is that instead of finding a new home for the subreddit, we'll eventually just either give control to some other body (or reddit takes it from us) or we'll just set the subreddit to public again and let it go its way without being very involved (Most of the current mods weren't really involved anymore anyways). I'd love to find a new place devoted to this topic (twitter definitely sucks for long form discussion), but I haven't found such a place, and don't have the time/energy to set one up myself.
  - Eisenstein 3y ago
    Its /r/machinelearning isn't it?

by querez 3y ago

davidgerard 3y ago

same here. r/sneerclub (18.5k) wouldn't have joined without overwhelming community support. Only question is whether to come back in two days. Also I think everyone on the sub knows very well it's a complete waste of time lol

theobromananda 3y ago
Thank you dgerard, you are doing (acausal robot) god's work.
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safety1st 3y ago

If you don't stay on Reddit where will you go? I'm eager to join communities that are moving to something less user hostile than Reddit. Bonus for anything OSS or federated.

querez 3y ago
That's not really decided yet. Without going into too much detail, a lot of our moderators are not as engaged as they once were: Eternal September has washed out many of our core contributers long ago, and the subreddit's focus has shifted over the years. Mostly to topics that (IMO) most mods don't care too much about (self-promotion, "beginner friendly content" instead of expert discussion, fluff...). So in my view, most of the subreddit is in strong decline and is just not "the place it used to be". With several million subscribers, I feel like it's very hard to foster a real sense of community. And once you hit a certain popularity, the amount of newcomers will always be larger than the "core", and good content erodes from there. I guess that's true of a lot of reddit, though. We could've tried harder to prevent this (or guide our community), but at the time we felt that "hands off" was a better moderation approach, and now it's likely impossible to change that course. Anyways, IMO most of the really interesting discussion on the topic happens on twitter already. My best guess is that instead of finding a new home for the subreddit, we'll eventually just either give control to some other body (or reddit takes it from us) or we'll just set the subreddit to public again and let it go its way without being very involved (Most of the current mods weren't really involved anymore anyways). I'd love to find a new place devoted to this topic (twitter definitely sucks for long form discussion), but I haven't found such a place, and don't have the time/energy to set one up myself.
- Eisenstein 3y ago
  Its /r/machinelearning isn't it?