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> spez / reddit ceo is a mod on r/programming How is it possible that these companies are still run like an immature dorm room shitshow? Are there no separatio

> spez / reddit ceo is a mod on r/programming How is it possible that these companies are still run like an immature dorm room shitshow? Are there no separation of duties? The CEO should not have admin access to anything (the very least for security purposes).

alexruf 3y ago
I guess you brought it right to the point: Reddit has never grown to a company it’s „dorm room shitshow“
- madeofpalk 3y ago
  Isn't "reddit isn't a real company, it's a dorm room shitshow" supposed to be the appeal of reddit? A 'real company' wouldn't have a free-for-all API to allow third parties to leach their ad revenue.
  - sofixa 3y ago
    > A 'real company' wouldn't have a free-for-all API to allow third parties to leach their ad revenue. Or they might have realised that third parties are crucial to their success (they have the stats, they know what % of traffic, commenters, power users, etc. are using third-party apps) and instead added more constraints around the API, like also serving ads (like Telegram), lower rate limits for unauthenticated users, forcing oauth etc. Instead of going the nuclear path of making any third party downright unviable and thus forcing them to shutdown.
- lt 3y ago
  Recently I read Reddit has over 2000 employees. I can’t begin to imagine what they possibly do.
tirpen 3y ago
spez even infamously abused his admin access to edit another posters comment a while back. Calling it a dorm room shitshow is an insult to dorm rooms everywhere.
- astrange 3y ago
  He was correct to do this, because it was funny. Any true longtime forum poster would recognize this. (Conversely, if it wasn't funny, he should've done it differently.) Although doing Lowtax things may lead to turning into Lowtax, which is probably bad. I can certainly tell you it's not a serious problem, because it'd be illegal if it was. All serious problems with websites are revenue issues or legal issues.
  - aerio 3y ago
    It wasn't funny, and he didn't make any jokes. He edited "fuck spez" comments to remove spez and substitute other mods. Fuck r/the_donald - but that's just blatant admin power misuse to deflect criticism. Very topical with all the "fuck u/spez" comments going around these days. https://www.theverge.com/2016/11/23/13739026/reddit-ceo-steve-huffman-edit-comments https://www.theverge.com/2016/11/23/13739026/reddit-ceo-stev...
    - astrange 3y ago
      Admin abuse is inherently funny. It's like slapstick. It was funny on SA when the users paid to sign up in the first place, and it can only be more so when they're not even paying customers. Should've made it a wordfilter though. Those are more participatory. (You won't take this advice, which is why I've run a large popular internet forum before and you haven't.)
      - Algent 3y ago
        I completely agree, when he did that is was pretty funny (but a little pathetic he didn't dare to ban these users or this sub, either for money or political reasons). Users reacted poorly and "shocked" site wide somehow that an admin could exerts admin right and edit database which as a sysadmin made me laugh a lot because I get occasional similar ones from our users when we do admin stuff.
        tazjin 3y ago

alexruf 3y ago

I guess you brought it right to the point: Reddit has never grown to a company it’s „dorm room shitshow“

madeofpalk 3y ago
Isn't "reddit isn't a real company, it's a dorm room shitshow" supposed to be the appeal of reddit? A 'real company' wouldn't have a free-for-all API to allow third parties to leach their ad revenue.
- sofixa 3y ago
  > A 'real company' wouldn't have a free-for-all API to allow third parties to leach their ad revenue. Or they might have realised that third parties are crucial to their success (they have the stats, they know what % of traffic, commenters, power users, etc. are using third-party apps) and instead added more constraints around the API, like also serving ads (like Telegram), lower rate limits for unauthenticated users, forcing oauth etc. Instead of going the nuclear path of making any third party downright unviable and thus forcing them to shutdown.
lt 3y ago
Recently I read Reddit has over 2000 employees. I can’t begin to imagine what they possibly do.

tirpen 3y ago

spez even infamously abused his admin access to edit another posters comment a while back. Calling it a dorm room shitshow is an insult to dorm rooms everywhere.

astrange 3y ago
He was correct to do this, because it was funny. Any true longtime forum poster would recognize this. (Conversely, if it wasn't funny, he should've done it differently.) Although doing Lowtax things may lead to turning into Lowtax, which is probably bad. I can certainly tell you it's not a serious problem, because it'd be illegal if it was. All serious problems with websites are revenue issues or legal issues.
- aerio 3y ago
  It wasn't funny, and he didn't make any jokes. He edited "fuck spez" comments to remove spez and substitute other mods. Fuck r/the_donald - but that's just blatant admin power misuse to deflect criticism. Very topical with all the "fuck u/spez" comments going around these days. https://www.theverge.com/2016/11/23/13739026/reddit-ceo-steve-huffman-edit-comments https://www.theverge.com/2016/11/23/13739026/reddit-ceo-stev...
  - astrange 3y ago
    Admin abuse is inherently funny. It's like slapstick. It was funny on SA when the users paid to sign up in the first place, and it can only be more so when they're not even paying customers. Should've made it a wordfilter though. Those are more participatory. (You won't take this advice, which is why I've run a large popular internet forum before and you haven't.)
    - Algent 3y ago
      I completely agree, when he did that is was pretty funny (but a little pathetic he didn't dare to ban these users or this sub, either for money or political reasons). Users reacted poorly and "shocked" site wide somehow that an admin could exerts admin right and edit database which as a sysadmin made me laugh a lot because I get occasional similar ones from our users when we do admin stuff.
      - tazjin 3y ago