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You forgot AI. Also: >Want to see a contrast? The new Digg (2012) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4321773 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4321773

You forgot AI. Also: >Want to see a contrast? The new Digg (2012) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4321773 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4321773 What difference in comment quality do you mean exactly?

Karrot_Kream 3y ago
> You forgot AI. You're right, but the reason I didn't include it is that the coverage around AI isn't all emotional. There's a lot of hype behind it yes, but at it's core it's based on new products that people are excited about. But maybe I should have. A lot of them devolve into the same type of hellthread. > What difference in comment quality do you mean exactly? Discussion about CSS and web design features, discussions about web accessibility, and how there were just very few flippant comments. These big Reddit threads have a lot of pithy "f** Reddit" comments and lots and lots of silly (angry) jokes that make me feel like I'm on Reddit and not on HN.
- lopis 3y ago
  On one hand, it doesn't make sense to be talking about CSS and web design when we are talking about _policy_ changes. I'm sure if you go back to when Reddit first released the new frontend, you would fine all the CSS discussions you look for. On the other hand, lots of discussions are also happening around design and accessibility. Reddit's official app has bad design, including many dark patterns and terrible accessibility and performance. This has been discussion alongside the policy changes from day one.
doix 3y ago
> OK, I fire up the site. I see 6 big pictures, 6 links to actual content and minimal navigation. A whole screen and only 6 bits of actual content? Its like a children's book. And more and more sites age going for this style. Is this the web now? The BBC Olympic site has gone this route and its awful to navigate. [0] Wow, a comment about Digg in 2012 applies _perfectly_ to new Reddit, except I get 2 big pictures instead of 6. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4322126 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4322126
drumhead 3y ago
Wow, it was peak "Apple, my way or the highway" mentality there. They were also expecting users to ultimately just put up with it, it doesn't seem like they expected the exodus. Calling Noscript users entitled. It really does feel like a different era. People aren't so ready to give tech companies the benefit of the doubt now.

Karrot_Kream 3y ago

> You forgot AI. You're right, but the reason I didn't include it is that the coverage around AI isn't all emotional. There's a lot of hype behind it yes, but at it's core it's based on new products that people are excited about. But maybe I should have. A lot of them devolve into the same type of hellthread. > What difference in comment quality do you mean exactly? Discussion about CSS and web design features, discussions about web accessibility, and how there were just very few flippant comments. These big Reddit threads have a lot of pithy "f** Reddit" comments and lots and lots of silly (angry) jokes that make me feel like I'm on Reddit and not on HN.

lopis 3y ago
On one hand, it doesn't make sense to be talking about CSS and web design when we are talking about _policy_ changes. I'm sure if you go back to when Reddit first released the new frontend, you would fine all the CSS discussions you look for. On the other hand, lots of discussions are also happening around design and accessibility. Reddit's official app has bad design, including many dark patterns and terrible accessibility and performance. This has been discussion alongside the policy changes from day one.

doix 3y ago

> OK, I fire up the site. I see 6 big pictures, 6 links to actual content and minimal navigation. A whole screen and only 6 bits of actual content? Its like a children's book. And more and more sites age going for this style. Is this the web now? The BBC Olympic site has gone this route and its awful to navigate. [0] Wow, a comment about Digg in 2012 applies _perfectly_ to new Reddit, except I get 2 big pictures instead of 6. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4322126 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4322126

drumhead 3y ago

Wow, it was peak "Apple, my way or the highway" mentality there. They were also expecting users to ultimately just put up with it, it doesn't seem like they expected the exodus. Calling Noscript users entitled. It really does feel like a different era. People aren't so ready to give tech companies the benefit of the doubt now.