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And what exactly is user-hostile there? It doesn't look beautiful to my tastes, but functionally nothing is particularly complicated to understand.

MattGaiser 3y ago
I would be curious how well redesigns go over in general, given that users are used to things working a certain way.
thom 3y ago
Some people still use old.reddit.com which I find superior purely because it reveals more content with fewer clicks.
sedatk 3y ago
Infinite scroll, for example, makes it easy to lose your reading progress with a simple refresh/reload. Paged UIs, on the other hand, don’t have that problem.
- creshal 3y ago
  Reddit is especially obnoxious because the sorting algorithms are extremely volatile, and if you do scroll too far, you'll never find that particular piece of content again. Infinite scrolling in Twitter etc. is much less obnoxious.
  - sedatk 3y ago
    > Infinite scrolling in Twitter etc. is much less obnoxious. Yes, Twitter's much better on that aspect, partly because how different its design is, and partly because how they handle browsing mechanics.
- mcmoor 3y ago
  I'm not even sure if it's 3PA only feature but there's option to hide all posts that you've read (or scrolled past). After finding that feature now i want it everywhere there's infinite scroll because yeah otherwise it's unusable.
  - sedatk 3y ago
    That feature's way less useful when you don't read each and every post in sequential order. Also sometimes I want to go back and look at something I've already read. That makes it complicated too.
netsharc 3y ago
I had to check what the previous design looked like: http://web.archive.org/web/20060223114105/http://www.fark.com/ http://web.archive.org/web/20060223114105/http://www.fark.co... I guess the new (current since 2007) design has a lot more whitespace, although not as bad as now "mobile-first" designs of the last 5 or so years. On the topic of mobile, the current fark.com doesn't have a phone-friendly design.
- MandieD 3y ago
  There's a separate mobile site that is not automatically launched: m.fark.com.
- calmlynarczyk 3y ago
  Seeing the original site design, which is considered "superior" by its users to the new one, makes me feel very out-of-touch with what many others consider good user experience design. I find the original design hard to use. The post text is very small. There is no max width to the main content, which makes it difficult to keep track of where you are when text spans multiple lines. The links are on the far-side of the page from the posts/comments they relate to, without any horizontal spacing indicators, so it's very difficult to tell what lines up with what. The only thing I like less in the redesign is that the sidebar sections are intermixed with banner ads, which makes them hard to find and get to. But overall, I found the new design a big improvement to the old one, which judging by the responses to this and the linked post, puts me in a small minority.

MattGaiser 3y ago

I would be curious how well redesigns go over in general, given that users are used to things working a certain way.

thom 3y ago

Some people still use old.reddit.com which I find superior purely because it reveals more content with fewer clicks.

sedatk 3y ago

Infinite scroll, for example, makes it easy to lose your reading progress with a simple refresh/reload. Paged UIs, on the other hand, don’t have that problem.

creshal 3y ago
Reddit is especially obnoxious because the sorting algorithms are extremely volatile, and if you do scroll too far, you'll never find that particular piece of content again. Infinite scrolling in Twitter etc. is much less obnoxious.
- sedatk 3y ago
  > Infinite scrolling in Twitter etc. is much less obnoxious. Yes, Twitter's much better on that aspect, partly because how different its design is, and partly because how they handle browsing mechanics.
mcmoor 3y ago
I'm not even sure if it's 3PA only feature but there's option to hide all posts that you've read (or scrolled past). After finding that feature now i want it everywhere there's infinite scroll because yeah otherwise it's unusable.
- sedatk 3y ago
  That feature's way less useful when you don't read each and every post in sequential order. Also sometimes I want to go back and look at something I've already read. That makes it complicated too.

netsharc 3y ago

I had to check what the previous design looked like: http://web.archive.org/web/20060223114105/http://www.fark.com/ http://web.archive.org/web/20060223114105/http://www.fark.co... I guess the new (current since 2007) design has a lot more whitespace, although not as bad as now "mobile-first" designs of the last 5 or so years. On the topic of mobile, the current fark.com doesn't have a phone-friendly design.

MandieD 3y ago
There's a separate mobile site that is not automatically launched: m.fark.com.
calmlynarczyk 3y ago
Seeing the original site design, which is considered "superior" by its users to the new one, makes me feel very out-of-touch with what many others consider good user experience design. I find the original design hard to use. The post text is very small. There is no max width to the main content, which makes it difficult to keep track of where you are when text spans multiple lines. The links are on the far-side of the page from the posts/comments they relate to, without any horizontal spacing indicators, so it's very difficult to tell what lines up with what. The only thing I like less in the redesign is that the sidebar sections are intermixed with banner ads, which makes them hard to find and get to. But overall, I found the new design a big improvement to the old one, which judging by the responses to this and the linked post, puts me in a small minority.