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As an engineer, the lack of consideration for the matter of how much one should corrupt a signal (which might be scanned under different conditions, such as dif

As an engineer, the lack of consideration for the matter of how much one should corrupt a signal (which might be scanned under different conditions, such as different light levels and resolutions) is grating to me. It’s like scratching a design onto the bottom of an audio CD, playing it, and if it works on your CD player, shipping it. “Works for me”

aledalgrande 3y ago
As a crafter and tinkerer, I love to test how far I can scratch that CD.
- mozey 3y ago
  > which might be scanned under different conditions, such as different light levels and resolutions This makes me think of your stereotypical pirate map to buried treasure
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motoxpro 3y ago
I feel like you need both people. The people who scratch a unique song onto a CD that only plays on one random CD player 2% of the time, and then the people who optimize that one song to play on 100% of devices while your upside down and underwater. Make the cool QR code first, then get it to work everywhere when you actually made something cool.
nayuki 3y ago
This is a classic read: http://datagenetics.com/blog/november12013/index.html http://datagenetics.com/blog/november12013/index.html
- thih9 3y ago
  Interestingly when I long pressed the codes marked as “No” (in Safari mobile), a lot of them were still decoded.
  - _djo_ 3y ago
    I didn’t even know that long pressing on a QR code decodes it. Thanks for the tip.
sdenton4 3y ago
Meanwhile, bare QR codes are ugly AF and draw the eye away from any other design... Things like this might lead to greater use.
- throwaway290 3y ago
  Greater use of QR is not a good thing, it's an attack vector actually
- maratc 3y ago
  This can barely be recognized by a layperson as a QR code at all. This may be great for steganography — like these US POWs in Vietnam blinking Morse code for "torture" while being filmed, when their captors don't realize that and pass the video, and the morbid message is later extracted.
hospitalJail 3y ago
Engineer here as well. What is the quality metric? Does it need to work in an emergency? Does it need to look cool more than it needs to work instantly? (like an ad) Also, I imagine most people use like 3 QR code readers, snapchat, the camera app for ios/android. Seems pretty trivial to test for 80% of the population.
sorenjan 3y ago
Look at it as if it's using unused parts of the signal spectrum to fit in another signal instead. Sometimes less error resilience in exchange for more data is a worth while trade, see for instance 256-QAM compared to 4-QAM (although not quite the same, I admit). I get what you mean, it's a misuse of the underlying technology and a crude hack in some ways, but if it's stupid and it works it's not stupid.

aledalgrande 3y ago

As a crafter and tinkerer, I love to test how far I can scratch that CD.

mozey 3y ago
> which might be scanned under different conditions, such as different light levels and resolutions This makes me think of your stereotypical pirate map to buried treasure

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motoxpro 3y ago

I feel like you need both people. The people who scratch a unique song onto a CD that only plays on one random CD player 2% of the time, and then the people who optimize that one song to play on 100% of devices while your upside down and underwater. Make the cool QR code first, then get it to work everywhere when you actually made something cool.

nayuki 3y ago

This is a classic read: http://datagenetics.com/blog/november12013/index.html http://datagenetics.com/blog/november12013/index.html

thih9 3y ago
Interestingly when I long pressed the codes marked as “No” (in Safari mobile), a lot of them were still decoded.
- _djo_ 3y ago
  I didn’t even know that long pressing on a QR code decodes it. Thanks for the tip.

sdenton4 3y ago

Meanwhile, bare QR codes are ugly AF and draw the eye away from any other design... Things like this might lead to greater use.

throwaway290 3y ago
Greater use of QR is not a good thing, it's an attack vector actually
maratc 3y ago
This can barely be recognized by a layperson as a QR code at all. This may be great for steganography — like these US POWs in Vietnam blinking Morse code for "torture" while being filmed, when their captors don't realize that and pass the video, and the morbid message is later extracted.

hospitalJail 3y ago

Engineer here as well. What is the quality metric? Does it need to work in an emergency? Does it need to look cool more than it needs to work instantly? (like an ad) Also, I imagine most people use like 3 QR code readers, snapchat, the camera app for ios/android. Seems pretty trivial to test for 80% of the population.

sorenjan 3y ago

Look at it as if it's using unused parts of the signal spectrum to fit in another signal instead. Sometimes less error resilience in exchange for more data is a worth while trade, see for instance 256-QAM compared to 4-QAM (although not quite the same, I admit). I get what you mean, it's a misuse of the underlying technology and a crude hack in some ways, but if it's stupid and it works it's not stupid.