She wasn't just involved in Ukraine. Was involved in Libya as well Your basic problem here is that you're confusing "trying to get involved" with "actually bei

She wasn't just involved in Ukraine. Was involved in Libya as well Your basic problem here is that you're confusing "trying to get involved" with "actually being involved and affecting events in a significant way". In short, the idea that Nuland's shenanigans did anything to move the needle on the ground is utter BS -- fodder for leftwing opinion websites in some Western countries, but not something that anybody in Ukraine takes seriously.