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Ask HN: What's a good, privacy focused bookmark manager?
Given that a person's bookmarks reveal some of the most personal interests, preferences and worries about that individual, it would be nice to erase them from my browser, but have them running on some privacy-focused solution that I can add new links to on the fly. Any suggestions from anyone?
- dmbche 3y agoIt's the most boring, but a text file with the urls and a title is probably your best option. Copy and paste to browser. Encrypt the file if you want extra security and use a good password/password manager. I understand it's not elegant UX/UI though.
- southernplaces7 3y agoInteresting idea and I'll give it a try, though the thought of transferring over my existing bookmarks (very large) and giving many of them titles is daunting to say the least.
- dmbche 3y agoThere might he a tool to export your bookmarks to a good standard - I'll look around. I doubt you're the first to look for this! Edit: chrome offers to export to html - might be a better start! You can then turn that into txt or copy paste what you're interested in!
- yannickperrenet 3y agoA while ago I wrote a simple script (including cli) to convert your exported bookmarks to markdown [1]. Hope it helps. [1] https://github.com/yannickperrenet/bookmarkdown https://github.com/yannickperrenet/bookmarkdown
- mmphosis 3y agoa local html file. <a href="link">title</a> In Firefox, about:config network.http.sendRefererHeader = 0
- jonnycomputer 3y agoIf you are doing text, this is the answer.
- bombcar 3y agoYour password manager may have a notes option. Send links to yourself.
- dotcoma 3y agoPinboard.in ?
- latexr 3y agoWorth reading the “What Happened to Pinboard” threads before considering it. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=What%20happened%20to%20pinboard&sort=byDate&type=story https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...
- __d 3y agoTry Larder? https://larder.io/ https://larder.io/ Sadly, pinboard is basically a zombie these days.
- maphew 3y agoWhat do you mean? Pinboard is working fine for me. Mind you I only signed up a few weeks ago so can't speak to reliability over time.
- viewtransform 3y agoI've been using Pinboard for seven years. Signed up for another 10 years last year - it just works. Explain what you mean by zombie ?
- __d 3y agoI've used Pinboard for years (10 year anniversary coming up in July 2023). By "zombie", I mean that it continues to function, but it's a dead product. Support is often non-existent, and there's been no enhancements for years. If I were looking for the same sort of product today, I'd steer clear of it in favor of something that seemed more like its operator cared.
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- hxii 3y agoIt seems like Larder has been mostly abandoned since 2018. (Judging by the last blog post and the roadmap)
- kirubakaran 3y agohttps://histre.com/ https://histre.com/ It has a strong privacy policy, full API access to all your data, and the ability download your data as a zip file. When you delete something / delete your account, it is truly gone, not soft-deleted. It is really fast (no bloated SPAs) too. It can automatically import your bookmarks, and will make ongoing knowledge management, sharing etc seamless. The extensions are open source: https://histre.com/install/ https://histre.com/install/ As a demo of how histre automatically organizes your knowledge, check this out: https://histre.com/hn/ https://histre.com/hn/ (Filter HN by automatic tags) (Disclaimer: Founder)
- xigoi 3y agoAccording to the linked page, Histre is for “supercharging Teams with AI”. What does that even mean and what does it have to do with bookmark management?
- kirubakaran 3y agoThanks for checking it out. We’re solving knowledge management and collaboration in teams. At an individual level, bookmarks are an important input for knowledge. So we solve that. > “Supercharing teams with AI” What does that even mean We use gpt4 to summarize and auto organize knowledge: which could be from team chats, documentation, bookmarks, etc. This helps teams collaborate better without having to play Sherlock on team chat logs etc… hope that makes sense… I do agree with you that I need to do a better job of describing it. I’ll work on it. Thanks for your feedback!
- pbronez 3y agoHonest question: how do along “strong privacy policy” with “we use GPT-4”? My understanding is that anything you hit an OpenAI API with can and will be used as training material for future public models. Thus it’s not safe to use their APIs with any proprietary data. Your service seems pretty cool, but I’m nervous about connecting a pipe from my corporate chat solution to OpenAI like that.
- darekkay 3y agoI've created Static Marks [0], an open-source tool that gives you the full control over your bookmarks. You can even import your existing browser bookmarks. The "add bookmarks on the fly" part is (by design) not as straightforward, though, as you have to enter your bookmarks manually into a YAML file. [0] https://darekkay.com/static-marks/ https://darekkay.com/static-marks/
- lannisterstark 3y agoShiori is nice, and has an extension. You can self host the server. https://github.com/go-shiori/shiori https://github.com/go-shiori/shiori
- phneutral26 3y ago+1 for shiori, I have been using it since 2~ years, and it never once did something unintended.
- lakomen 3y agoTrouble with every update. When you install it, it works, but upgrading and migrations don't work, so you're stuck with an inaccessible database of bookmarks. I was very disappointed.
- justsomehnguy 3y agoTried it RN. Can't say it's good (a lot of rough edges in the UI) but... it works? And I pushed my FF bookmarks to it without problems. Guess I stick with it for now. Thanks.
- testacct22 3y agoYou could do emacs org-mode with auto encryption Or even better: could just make a little self hosted web app that does this for you Or another idea (most useful for me): self host an instance of mediawiki and use it as a personal knowledge base
- kashunstva 3y agoI use Espial[1] for bookmark management. It’s a self-hosted Pinboard clone. [1]: https://github.com/jonschoning/espial https://github.com/jonschoning/espial
- sureglymop 3y agoNextcloud bookmarks and the floccus browser extension to sync the bookmarks.
- nicman23 3y agofirefox sync is pretty good for that. it is e2e and you can host your own instance
- lakomen 3y agoLast time I tried, v1, the setup process was very complicated. V2 then was even more complicated and undocumented. Has that improved?
- Emigre_ 3y agohttps://raindrop.io/ https://raindrop.io/ I like Raindrop. Developed by an indie dev, no ads and tracking, revenue comes from subscriptions.
- approxim8ion 3y agoI use OneTab, it is perfect for me, with the caveat that it has no categorization or sync, neither of which I really need.
- francisfeng 3y agoIf you’re in Apple ecosystem, you should try my app Anybox: https://anybox.app https://anybox.app Anybox is a native bookmark manager available in macOS, iOS, and iPadOS. The data are stored in the Apple’s CloudKit and no personal data is collected.
- tsp 3y agoI am a happy Anybox user and previously used Pinboard and Raindrop. It syncs the bookmarks via iCloud.
- activiation 3y agoI use Mozilla Sync, it can sync more than bookmarks... It can also sync history, passwords, credit cards and more. You can select whatever you want to sync. https://i.imgur.com/0pwJQUj.png https://i.imgur.com/0pwJQUj.png
- hamsterbase 3y agoIf you want to save articles, you can try using Hamsterbase. It doesn't collect any information and doesn't require login or registration. It offers a self-deployed version and provides desktop clients for Windows, Mac, and Linux. It supports full-text search. It supports annotating web pages. There is an open-source and free browser plugin that allows real-time annotation in the browser: https://github.com/hamsterbase/hamsterbase-highlighter https://github.com/hamsterbase/hamsterbase-highlighter.
- x0ff 3y agohttps://github.com/jarun/buku https://github.com/jarun/buku is a powerful bookmark manager and a personal textual mini-web.
- bsnnkv 3y agoHonestly, if privacy is the primary concern, you should only be looking at self-hosted solutions.
- khobragade 3y agoI use a non-synced Zotero instance. It saves everything about the pages, has snapshots for offline access and I reflect on the content in the notes. It's nice.
- p1nkpineapple 3y agoI'm personally a big fan of Linkding [1]. You have to self host it, which means all the data stays local. I like the minimalist approach to the UI and there is a browser extension and (community created) mobile app [2]. Its also built on Django, which makes it pretty easy to manage/extend/modify. [1] https://github.com/sissbruecker/linkding https://github.com/sissbruecker/linkding [2] https://apps.apple.com/nz/app/linkthing/id1666031776 https://apps.apple.com/nz/app/linkthing/id1666031776
- LanternLight83 3y agoMildly related thought: What I need is an RSS feed, Youtube, and local file manager (for content addressed buckets) that regularly brings a handful of "items" to my attention Anki-card style for quick metadata review/updates, relative (bracket-style) ranking, monotonically-increasing "priority" counter I can tick over time, and "Do you still want to keep this?" for de-cluttering. Will probably need to DIY, but if you know any (ideally composable) tools that can cover even a portion of this system, please let me know before I start wiring Buku into Emacs.
- glorifiedgluer 3y agoMy setup might not be exactly what you are looking for, but could be close enough: 1. For Atom/RSS feeds, I use elfeed-org[0]. (including YouTube channels). You can also use elfeed-tube[1] to watch videos on mpv without accessing the website. 2. For spaced-repetition, I also use org-drill[2], this makes it easy to take notes while reading PDFs with pdf-tools[3]. 3. For priority tracking, I use the builtin org-agenda with org-super-agenda[4] to create "views" based on some metadata[5]. This is all done in the same plain text format (org files) and synced in a Git repository. [0]: https://github.com/remyhonig/elfeed-org https://github.com/remyhonig/elfeed-org [1]: https://github.com/karthink/elfeed-tube https://github.com/karthink/elfeed-tube [2]: https://melpa.org/#/org-drill https://melpa.org/#/org-drill [3]: https://github.com/vedang/pdf-tools https://github.com/vedang/pdf-tools [4]: https://github.com/alphapapa/org-super-agenda https://github.com/alphapapa/org-super-agenda [5]: https://gluer.org/blog/2023/simple-org-mode-setup-things-done/ https://gluer.org/blog/2023/simple-org-mode-setup-things-don...
- RadixDLT 3y agobest bet is privacy focused browsers, brave,
- goddamnyouryan 3y agohttps://link.horse https://link.horse I don’t have a privacy policy because I haven’t gotten around to creating one yet but yeah, like the other guys say: - full api access - get all your data out as a zip or json or csv - when you delete something it’s truly deleted, not soft deleted.
- Code-Monki 3y agoI use [nb](https://github.com/xwmx/nb https://github.com/xwmx/nb). It's a CLI tool (easy to write a GUI for if you want one) that is fast, uses Git to version control things, and handles more than just bookmarks. I sync across computers using Dropbox.
- DeconBlue 3y agoNot an automatic option, but it works for me. emacs org-mode + org-cliplink + macro bound to F5. F5 -> insert org-mode style link with URL and Title. Then I can add as much description or tags as needed. If full text is needed, I might pull the site up with eww and copy/extract the text into org entry or add to org-roam for future processing. New bookmark file per day synced via self hosted Git repo accessed over TailScale. Manual, but full control and only available to me.
- sysid 3y agoSuper fast, full text search, fuzzy search... For command line dwellers: https://github.com/sysid/bkmr https://github.com/sysid/bkmr
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- jiehong 3y agoI would also offer to use a single file wiki such as tiddly wiki. It’s more than a bookmark manager, but it can be edited on the web and even stored in a git forge (like GitHub page). https://tiddlywiki.com/ https://tiddlywiki.com/
- MatthewBF 3y agohttps://www.partizion.io/ https://www.partizion.io/ is a great bookmark manager / session manager. Privacy focused, auto-saved sessions, and can add new links with the chrome extension.
- natannikolic 3y agohttps://tabler.one https://tabler.one — Tablerone is a 100% private tabs, sessions, and bookmarks manager browser extension. A few reasons why you should check it out: - Saving multiple/all tabs with one click - Ability to open multiple/all tabs with one click to continue previous sessions where you left off - Screenshot preview of pages Full disclosure: I’m its creator, but I’ll do my best to provide an objective answer. There are many different solutions to this problem. It really depends on which features are important to you, and which approach makes most sense to your workflow and mindset. Here’s a DB of noteworthy players in this space (in my subjective opinion): https://www.notion.so/natannikolic/21debca9c9e7434c9c61b29963ea3406?v=a32dc074c8924a7ba5898c7e56baa6b8&pvs=4 https://www.notion.so/natannikolic/21debca9c9e7434c9c61b2996... Most bookmarks managers, especially (desktop) apps such as Notion, Evernote, Raindrop.io, etc. are limited to saving pages 1-by-1 and usually aren’t able to open multiple links at the same time. They tend to be hybrids between read later and notes apps. They use webpage content images for list-item thumbnails (which are less recognisable than webpage screenshots), and are focused on saving the content (images and full-text transcript), not to effectively work with large quantities of links in the browser where you need them. On the other hand, most tab managers (and neo-browsers) tend to focus mostly on managing active workspaces and always-on web apps, but neglect the bookmarking and ‘personal knowledge system’ angle of bookmarking. Usually this involves a sort of dock/taskbar inside the browser for switching webapps and a Home Screen dashboard for seeing your tab-groups-like workspaces. Finally, when it comes to privacy, there is a lot of confusion and misrepresentation. Here’s an example of what I mean: https://better.raindrop.io/feature-requests/p/end-to-end-encryption https://better.raindrop.io/feature-requests/p/end-to-end-enc... Most vendors claim to offer E2E encryption — which just means that the data is sent across using the https protocol and the DB on the server is encrypted. However, this just protects data from unauthorised 3rd party breaches. The vendor itself still has the encryption key to the DB and is able to read users’ application data, i.e. your bookmarks. If the vendor offers cloud sync, it’s pretty much safe to say your application data is exposed, and subject to how much you trust the vendor not to snoop around or sell it. Which is why most of us offer local storage only solutions. However, Tablerone aspires to be the first one to offer a 0-knowledge solution (either through client-side encryption or blockchain storage) whereby we would provide the benefits of cloud storage and multi-device sync, but only the user would have the encryption key to read their data. Thus, not having to trust us, but be able to rely on privacy by design.