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Now you're playing semantics games. Saying "it does not solve the issue of intermittency at all" does not mean it cannot be a partial solution. The main point i

by _hypx 3y ago

Now you're playing semantics games. Saying "it does not solve the issue of intermittency at all" does not mean it cannot be a partial solution. The main point is that hydrogen does solve the issue, as a full solution, whereas all the others are just partial solutions.

natmaka 3y ago
IMHO "it does not solve the issue of intermittency at all" is a nirvana fallacy. Reducing the effects of intermittency on production by bumping up the throughput of interconnections (in order to aggregate production on a vast geographical scale) which are otherwise needed (continuity of service and optimization) will be very useful because: - many sectors (industry, agriculture...) need hydrogen, which is nowadays obtained through dirty processes => green hydrogen will be in high demand (not only for grid backup) - storing huge amounts of hydrogen isn't possible right now (progress towards salt caverns storage is slow) and may never be
- _hypx 3y ago
  Wrong. It solves it completely if you wanted to. This is Ludditism, pure and simple. > - storing huge amounts of hydrogen isn't possible right now (progress towards salt caverns storage is slow) and may never be Wrong. We have been doing this for decades. This is a solved problem. You are utterly misinformed here.
  - natmaka 3y ago
    > It solves it completely Source? Reality: not a single nation enjoys an 100% hydrogen electricity grid backup system. >> storing huge amounts of hydrogen isn't possible right now > We have been doing this for decades Source? Reality: not a single nation stores hydrogen in huge amounts for its electricity backup system. Those as mere pilot projects, such as https://www.pv-magazine.com/2022/08/04/worlds-largest-underground-hydrogen-storage-project/ https://www.pv-magazine.com/2022/08/04/worlds-largest-underg...

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Now you're playing semantics games. Saying "it does not solve the issue of intermittency at all" does not mean it cannot be a partial solution. The main point i

by _hypx 3y ago

natmaka 3y ago
IMHO "it does not solve the issue of intermittency at all" is a nirvana fallacy. Reducing the effects of intermittency on production by bumping up the throughput of interconnections (in order to aggregate production on a vast geographical scale) which are otherwise needed (continuity of service and optimization) will be very useful because: - many sectors (industry, agriculture...) need hydrogen, which is nowadays obtained through dirty processes => green hydrogen will be in high demand (not only for grid backup) - storing huge amounts of hydrogen isn't possible right now (progress towards salt caverns storage is slow) and may never be
- _hypx 3y ago
  Wrong. It solves it completely if you wanted to. This is Ludditism, pure and simple. > - storing huge amounts of hydrogen isn't possible right now (progress towards salt caverns storage is slow) and may never be Wrong. We have been doing this for decades. This is a solved problem. You are utterly misinformed here.
  - natmaka 3y ago
    > It solves it completely Source? Reality: not a single nation enjoys an 100% hydrogen electricity grid backup system. >> storing huge amounts of hydrogen isn't possible right now > We have been doing this for decades Source? Reality: not a single nation stores hydrogen in huge amounts for its electricity backup system. Those as mere pilot projects, such as https://www.pv-magazine.com/2022/08/04/worlds-largest-underground-hydrogen-storage-project/ https://www.pv-magazine.com/2022/08/04/worlds-largest-underg...