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As I’ve continued to repeat, a change in user preference (mostly from one ideology) is to blame for this. Reddit went from pretty much complete free speech to

As I’ve continued to repeat, a change in user preference (mostly from one ideology) is to blame for this. Reddit went from pretty much complete free speech to one of the most censored websites in existence. Huge portions of America now prefer censorship so Reddit has in essence created a moat for themselves. If Americans were more accepting of all speech like before, Reddit clones would be easy to switch to. Now, you’re not only battling new censorship standards, but good luck getting on the IOS and Android store as a free speech forum. On top of that, there are political benefits to this censorship. So that adds even more defense to the moat.

miniBill 3y ago
No? This has nothing to do with freedom of speech or censorship. What are you on about? [nitpicky note: it's iOS, not IOS - the latter being Cisco's one]
- TheCaptain4815 3y ago
  If the original Reddit popped up today it would be rejected by most users for allowing certain content, and rejected by all marketplace stores for the same thing. This in turn gives Reddit much more control and a very powerful moat.
discardedrefuse 3y ago
Reddit didn't censor itself because Americans are not accepting of free speech. Reddit started censoring itself to appease corporate overlords. And the only reason those corpos embrace censorship is to stay out of the political crosshairs. How long did /r/jailbait exist before getting shutdown in 2011...and only because it was featured on Anderson Cooper?
- TheCaptain4815 3y ago
  My point was even given an alternative, most users agree with and support the censorship. This in effect discredits almost any alternative by the user base itself, thus giving Reddit control.
- memefrog 3y ago
  That's not true. Reddit "censorship" that is the problem isn't things like banning questionable subreddits. Some of them were stupid. For example they claimed many were banned for "harassment" when there was no way for any subreddit to control whether subscribers harassed people, and it was inconsistently applied only to certain subreddits. No, the real problem is that now on reddit you get side-wide banned by the administrators for saying words that they've deemed to be unspeakable slurs, regardless of any context. You might want to debate whether it is a slur on a debate subreddit. You might want to talk about how you were shouted at on the subway. You might want to talk about the fact everyone used to use it, and now doesn't. Today, you have to do all those things without actually saying the word you mean. That's the kind of censorship reddit does now: site-wide, unappealable, automated and contextless, based on keywords and not intent.
htag 3y ago
I've come to associate online platforms marketing themselves as free speech havens as being extremely far right ideologically. Are there any examples of non-censored media that either doesn't cover politics or covers the entire spectrum?
- memefrog 3y ago
  Reddit before about 2018?

miniBill 3y ago

No? This has nothing to do with freedom of speech or censorship. What are you on about? [nitpicky note: it's iOS, not IOS - the latter being Cisco's one]

TheCaptain4815 3y ago
If the original Reddit popped up today it would be rejected by most users for allowing certain content, and rejected by all marketplace stores for the same thing. This in turn gives Reddit much more control and a very powerful moat.

discardedrefuse 3y ago

Reddit didn't censor itself because Americans are not accepting of free speech. Reddit started censoring itself to appease corporate overlords. And the only reason those corpos embrace censorship is to stay out of the political crosshairs. How long did /r/jailbait exist before getting shutdown in 2011...and only because it was featured on Anderson Cooper?

TheCaptain4815 3y ago
My point was even given an alternative, most users agree with and support the censorship. This in effect discredits almost any alternative by the user base itself, thus giving Reddit control.
memefrog 3y ago
That's not true. Reddit "censorship" that is the problem isn't things like banning questionable subreddits. Some of them were stupid. For example they claimed many were banned for "harassment" when there was no way for any subreddit to control whether subscribers harassed people, and it was inconsistently applied only to certain subreddits. No, the real problem is that now on reddit you get side-wide banned by the administrators for saying words that they've deemed to be unspeakable slurs, regardless of any context. You might want to debate whether it is a slur on a debate subreddit. You might want to talk about how you were shouted at on the subway. You might want to talk about the fact everyone used to use it, and now doesn't. Today, you have to do all those things without actually saying the word you mean. That's the kind of censorship reddit does now: site-wide, unappealable, automated and contextless, based on keywords and not intent.

htag 3y ago

I've come to associate online platforms marketing themselves as free speech havens as being extremely far right ideologically. Are there any examples of non-censored media that either doesn't cover politics or covers the entire spectrum?

memefrog 3y ago
Reddit before about 2018?