This is why I framed the question to see if there was a 'dominant vibe'. It sounds like there were voices in a position to best know but that they were a minori

This is why I framed the question to see if there was a 'dominant vibe'. It sounds like there were voices in a position to best know but that they were a minority. I think I can infer that their education explanations didn't meaningfully change that dominant vibe.