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Again, that is a fire in a data center that has no reported mention of machine learning.. you do realise data centers existed before machine learning. Here is

Again, that is a fire in a data center that has no reported mention of machine learning.. you do realise data centers existed before machine learning. Here is a claim from DeepMind they reduced Google's cooling bill using ML 7 years ago https://www.deepmind.com/blog/deepmind-ai-reduces-google-data-centre-cooling-bill-by-40 https://www.deepmind.com/blog/deepmind-ai-reduces-google-dat...

rvz 3y ago
> Again, that is a fire in a data center that has no reported mention of machine learning.. you do realise data centers existed before machine learning. And clearly it has gotten worse as evidenced by the waste of resources caused by the increased popularity of AI as a service products like ChatGPT. My point still stands. By now, there should be far less (not more) data centers needed for viable AI operations instead of building more of them as AI continues to scale up. This tells us that there is little to no progress in creating alternative and efficient methods in training these deep learning models. > Here is a claim from DeepMind they reduced Google's cooling bill using ML 7 years ago That ‘claim’ doesn't mean anything other than complete green washing nonsense from Google, especially when they have collaborated with oil companies to claim to ‘reduce’ their emissions. [0] Other than more greenwashing, little to nothing has changed. [0] https://theintercept.com/2023/02/17/google-cloud-saudi-aramco-oil/ https://theintercept.com/2023/02/17/google-cloud-saudi-aramc...
- jabradoodle 3y ago
  As a cloud provider they are providing compute to companies that require compute; how is that newsworthy in anyway? > By now, there should be far less (not more) data centers needed for viable AI operations instead of building more of them as AI continues to scale up As there is more research and more products, using more compute is not surprising. There are renewable forms of electricity that can be used; the fact that oil companies held us back from more renewable means is not a reason to complain about people conducting scientific research.

rvz 3y ago

> Again, that is a fire in a data center that has no reported mention of machine learning.. you do realise data centers existed before machine learning. And clearly it has gotten worse as evidenced by the waste of resources caused by the increased popularity of AI as a service products like ChatGPT. My point still stands. By now, there should be far less (not more) data centers needed for viable AI operations instead of building more of them as AI continues to scale up. This tells us that there is little to no progress in creating alternative and efficient methods in training these deep learning models. > Here is a claim from DeepMind they reduced Google's cooling bill using ML 7 years ago That ‘claim’ doesn't mean anything other than complete green washing nonsense from Google, especially when they have collaborated with oil companies to claim to ‘reduce’ their emissions. [0] Other than more greenwashing, little to nothing has changed. [0] https://theintercept.com/2023/02/17/google-cloud-saudi-aramco-oil/ https://theintercept.com/2023/02/17/google-cloud-saudi-aramc...

jabradoodle 3y ago
As a cloud provider they are providing compute to companies that require compute; how is that newsworthy in anyway? > By now, there should be far less (not more) data centers needed for viable AI operations instead of building more of them as AI continues to scale up As there is more research and more products, using more compute is not surprising. There are renewable forms of electricity that can be used; the fact that oil companies held us back from more renewable means is not a reason to complain about people conducting scientific research.