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I realize electric is the future and am looking forward to the changeover (even just the decrease in noise and tailpipe emissions will be a massive life improve
by snapplebobapple 3y ago
I realize electric is the future and am looking forward to the changeover (even just the decrease in noise and tailpipe emissions will be a massive life improvement for people in cities), but I have so much trouble getting excited about these kinds of articles because whenever I take the hours and hours to actually follow the links through to the studies I have always found harms of ICE to be much more completely incorporated than harms of electric and benefits of ICE to be much less completely incorporated than benefits electric. It's to the point where I don't have the heart to put in the hours and hours to verify anymore.
So has anyone else followed all the links on this? Are they adequately accounting for the toxicity/environmental degradation from processing end of life lithium batteries, or is there magical thinking that somehow that process will become a lot better by the time a significant number of batters will need to be recycled? Are they accounting for the cost of the massive electric grid expansion needed to support this or are they obviously underestimating this? The article talks about trips to the mechanic like it is an environmental benefit rather than solely a cost benefit, but doesn't do the same on the drawback of the 20-30% cost premium for all electric vs ICE.
It seems like we are forcing a change prematurely with propaganda which isn't very smart because it sucks the life out of better alternatives given the current technology level. I.e. it would seem pretty obviously better to be spending political capital on changing zoning and building codes so that all the new construction, renovation, road building, etc. pushes cities to be more like Amsterdam and Stockholm (among others) going forward and have the transition to all electric take an extra decade or two as a result. That would directly convert car trips into bike trips and walking, which destroys even electric cars on the environmental benefit scale and could convert 20-30% of trips after a few decades of change. This would also have the large benefit of having the bulk of electric cars change over using later technology which should be more efficient and be a lot better for the environment (i.e. using sodium ion batteries or something even better).