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And then you have to realize that it's always been this way

by darkerside 3y ago

chrisco255 3y ago
There are degrees of disinformation.
- samstave 3y ago
  There is the disinformation you know. There is the disinformation you dont know. There is the disinformation you know you dont know. There is the disinformation you dont know you dont know. There is the disinformation you are told that you know, but you dont know. There is the disinformation you know, but are told you dont know. There is the disinformation diseminated by those who have been disinformed but dont know they are disinformed. There is the disinformation diseminated by those who know its disinformation but know they are disinforming. etc.
  - noobcoder 3y ago
    Order by severity: Known disinformation > Unknown disinformation > Disinformation you're told you know, but dont > Disinformation spread knowingly > Disinformation you know you dont know > Disinformation spread unknowingly > Unknown disinformation > Unknowingly unknown disinformation
- heresie-dabord 3y ago
  What we have invented is a profit system where there is information assymetry and remarkable consolidation of information sources. Pump-and-dump manipulation is inevitable.
samstave 3y ago
This is what I love of the situation ; after long-form was taken seriously, as shown in podcasting - and especially popularized by Joe Rogan - the plastic sham that is the "news" got their entire asses handed to them. Recall the news back in the 70s and 80s - drab, brown, dingy tweed suits, maize and pea coloured sets - etc... Now its all Tits & Glitz - every set is all snazzy with huge touch-screen display to show stupidly lame content - where they just needed a huge touch screen "technology wall" for no real reason, other than "because we are hip to tech!" CNN, FOX, MSNBC are fucking cringe-factories. (Well, ALL of congress is the biggest cringe-factory) So yeah - its always been that way and podcasters, such as Joe Rogan, Lex Fridman and many others have just shown what a ludicrus outdated and, needs-to-die-yesterday paradigm that which Murdoch built actually is. What a joke.
ekianjo 3y ago
Yes, but I believe things have changed quite a bit once the Three letters Agencies decided to invest heavily in corrupting the press.

And then you have to realize that it's always been this way

chrisco255 3y ago

There are degrees of disinformation.

samstave 3y ago
There is the disinformation you know. There is the disinformation you dont know. There is the disinformation you know you dont know. There is the disinformation you dont know you dont know. There is the disinformation you are told that you know, but you dont know. There is the disinformation you know, but are told you dont know. There is the disinformation diseminated by those who have been disinformed but dont know they are disinformed. There is the disinformation diseminated by those who know its disinformation but know they are disinforming. etc.
- noobcoder 3y ago
  Order by severity: Known disinformation > Unknown disinformation > Disinformation you're told you know, but dont > Disinformation spread knowingly > Disinformation you know you dont know > Disinformation spread unknowingly > Unknown disinformation > Unknowingly unknown disinformation
heresie-dabord 3y ago
What we have invented is a profit system where there is information assymetry and remarkable consolidation of information sources. Pump-and-dump manipulation is inevitable.

samstave 3y ago

This is what I love of the situation ; after long-form was taken seriously, as shown in podcasting - and especially popularized by Joe Rogan - the plastic sham that is the "news" got their entire asses handed to them. Recall the news back in the 70s and 80s - drab, brown, dingy tweed suits, maize and pea coloured sets - etc... Now its all Tits & Glitz - every set is all snazzy with huge touch-screen display to show stupidly lame content - where they just needed a huge touch screen "technology wall" for no real reason, other than "because we are hip to tech!" CNN, FOX, MSNBC are fucking cringe-factories. (Well, ALL of congress is the biggest cringe-factory) So yeah - its always been that way and podcasters, such as Joe Rogan, Lex Fridman and many others have just shown what a ludicrus outdated and, needs-to-die-yesterday paradigm that which Murdoch built actually is. What a joke.

ekianjo 3y ago

Yes, but I believe things have changed quite a bit once the Three letters Agencies decided to invest heavily in corrupting the press.