> Which might be ok for the surrounding land, but isn't fine for the inhabitants of the city. Even when the "surrounding land" is a 15-20 minute bicycle ride a

> Which might be ok for the surrounding land, but isn't fine for the inhabitants of the city. Even when the "surrounding land" is a 15-20 minute bicycle ride away, or a hoping on a train to smaller a little farther away (or perhaps have train stations at Nature preserves)? Or perhaps green spaces like New York's Central Park or Toronto's Leslie Street Spit: * https://tommythompsonpark.ca/about/ https://tommythompsonpark.ca/about/ * https://www.google.com/search?as_q=Leslie+Street+Spit&as_st=y&tbm=isch https://www.google.com/search?as_q=Leslie+Street+Spit&as_st=... regularly interspersed between housing. Toronto used to have a number of rivers/ravines that got filled in for housing: * https://www.blogto.com/city/2014/02/5_lost_rivers_that_run_under_toronto/ https://www.blogto.com/city/2014/02/5_lost_rivers_that_run_u... * https://www.lostrivers.ca https://www.lostrivers.ca