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Chief among key new assertions the parent article makes, https://twitter.com/BlockedVirology/status/1667662325090746370?t=6utzB7y9NeK1fkT1mXFblA&s=19 https://t

Chief among key new assertions the parent article makes, https://twitter.com/BlockedVirology/status/1667662325090746370?t=6utzB7y9NeK1fkT1mXFblA&s=19 https://twitter.com/BlockedVirology/status/16676623250907463... • WIV added FCS's to coronavirus(es?) exactly as described in DEFUSE, according to a US lab collaborator. • Zhou Yusen "fell" off the roof of the WIV in May 2020 • WIV was working on a 'closer [than published] unpublished variant' • Of all caves/mines, only scholarly attempts to access the Mojiang mine made touched off access denial and confiscation of samples from other mines from the authorities. While alluded to in the past, (https://apnews.com/article/united-nations-coronavirus-pandemic-china-only-on-ap-bats-24fbadc58cee3a40bca2ddf7a14d2955 https://apnews.com/article/united-nations-coronavirus-pandem... ) this is the first time to my awareness that the Mojiang mine has been uniquely & unequivocally associated with the authorities' clamp-down efforts, that too with attribution to Alice C Hughes, PhD

samspenc 3y ago
> Zhou Yusen "fell" off the roof of the WIV in May 2020 I mean, this is a pretty significant and concerning new finding right? Someone associated with the lab researching COVID early on just mysteriously disappearing in China?
- sokoloff 3y ago
  This was news in the summer of 2021 and still seems a concerning (albeit not new) finding as he had reportedly filed a patent for a COVID-19 vaccine in Feb of 2020 prior to dying in May of 2020.
- binx_ 3y ago
  specifically the person working on a possible vaccine at the same time as these GoF experiments, very interesting indeed.
ricksunny 3y ago
• an item covered that isn't strictly new but is probably unfamiliar to many even so, is: Of the researchers who the Jan 2021 State Dep Fact Sheet described as having fell sick with 'Covid-like symptoms' in Nov 2019 • they were taken to hospital, desoite being in their 30's and 40's (age) • one of their relatives died • they were working on advanced coronavirus research in the laboratory The WaPo journalist Josh Rogin who is known for maintainibg quality confidential sources in DC, had long ago tweeted the above. While some aspects may have been covered in intervening press, this is the first time to my knowledge all of tbese items are asserted explicitly with a quote attributed to one of the anonymous investigators. --- my take fwiw: While intriguing, vis-a-vis a seasonal illness null hypothesis, it's never been discussed whether they were unique cases at that time with such symptoms (more likely covid), or if many others both in and out of the WIV had similar symtoms at the time (more likely seasonal illness)
- ricksunny 3y ago
  Just updating my above comment that the observations about the sick researchers did actually make it into print in 2021 thx to Ian Birrell in DailyMail: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9410163/US-State-Department-expert-David-Asher-says-lab-leak-logical-explanation-Covid-source.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9410163/US-State-De...

samspenc 3y ago

> Zhou Yusen "fell" off the roof of the WIV in May 2020 I mean, this is a pretty significant and concerning new finding right? Someone associated with the lab researching COVID early on just mysteriously disappearing in China?

sokoloff 3y ago
This was news in the summer of 2021 and still seems a concerning (albeit not new) finding as he had reportedly filed a patent for a COVID-19 vaccine in Feb of 2020 prior to dying in May of 2020.
binx_ 3y ago
specifically the person working on a possible vaccine at the same time as these GoF experiments, very interesting indeed.

ricksunny 3y ago

• an item covered that isn't strictly new but is probably unfamiliar to many even so, is: Of the researchers who the Jan 2021 State Dep Fact Sheet described as having fell sick with 'Covid-like symptoms' in Nov 2019 • they were taken to hospital, desoite being in their 30's and 40's (age) • one of their relatives died • they were working on advanced coronavirus research in the laboratory The WaPo journalist Josh Rogin who is known for maintainibg quality confidential sources in DC, had long ago tweeted the above. While some aspects may have been covered in intervening press, this is the first time to my knowledge all of tbese items are asserted explicitly with a quote attributed to one of the anonymous investigators. --- my take fwiw: While intriguing, vis-a-vis a seasonal illness null hypothesis, it's never been discussed whether they were unique cases at that time with such symptoms (more likely covid), or if many others both in and out of the WIV had similar symtoms at the time (more likely seasonal illness)

ricksunny 3y ago
Just updating my above comment that the observations about the sick researchers did actually make it into print in 2021 thx to Ian Birrell in DailyMail: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9410163/US-State-Department-expert-David-Asher-says-lab-leak-logical-explanation-Covid-source.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9410163/US-State-De...