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I was curious how many sessions, and how long the sessions were. A Guardian article[1] suggests the sessions were 2 hours long, once a week, and the typical to

• 23B1 3y ago
  Having been through basic training (OSUT) and done my own cadre time at the JFK Special Warfare Center at Bragg... I have never experienced nor customized training to a student based on their beliefs, or background, etc. The training is to the standard, not to the student – and ain't nobody got time to look at student's records anyway.
  • tyingq 3y ago
    Perhaps you're younger? It was, at one time, pretty common to base the rage abuse on the recruit's religion, place of birth or induction, personal items/photos in the locker/wallet, observations on what made the recruit react, records, tests and so on. It was not hidden or subtle. There was a pretty big swing in the training in the 90's, following the Tailhook and other scandals where the physical stuff, constant swearing and humiliation was phased down. There have been a few rounds of this, over the years, usually following pressure from a scandal. I've also been in basic training, but in the late 1980's. I definitely got the personalized plan. I also got to hear the DI yell about other people's specific details. Who didn't have a father listed, who had a criminal record, who had to fill out details of pre-induction drug use, who almost flunked the ASVAB, who had a GED instead of a high school diploma, what idiot would be a JEE-HOVAS-WITNESS and so on. And worse. Didn't happen in my stay, but "blanket party beatings" and other hazing for some recruits was sometimes encouraged. My DI was more careful with physical stuff, though he did have this thing where he would drive his stiff hat brim into your eyes, lips, ears, etc. And quite a lot of saliva sprayed in my face whilst being yelled at.
    • gabereiser 3y ago
      I grew up with an Army 101st DS/JAG/Judge. They do this at home too. During the same time period. My “personalized” training was reminding me my father left, I wasn’t his son, I was a ne’er-do-well, I’ll never amount to anything, I’m lucky my mother found him, and that I was lazy. F’king brutal for an 11 year old. I left home at 17 after I graduated early and scored 99/100 on the ASVABs just to rub it in his face, didn’t join, and went into tech for the last 20 years and made more than he has seen in his lifetime. The training worked.
      • zaroth 3y ago
        Damn. It’s really impressive you were able to turn that treatment around into such a motivating force. I often half-jokingly say I am raising my kids too cushy for them to ever create something extraordinary. Extraordinary achievements take extraordinary effort, and history seems to show the necessary drive for extraordinary efforts comes from brutal lessons that teach endurance and perseverance. Or as the saying goes… Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. Weak men create hard times.
        • dbingham 3y ago
          This is empirically not true. To pick just a handful of obvious counter examples: Bill Gates was comfortablely upper middle class, Steve Jobs comfortablely middle class, both with solid family lives.
          • mistermann 3y ago
            > This is empirically not true. To pick just a handful of obvious counter examples... Do you believe "Donald Trump is a liar" to be empirically true?
          • mdp2021 3y ago
            It just means, "Grit boosts rates of success. Indulgence wakens grit".
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• great_psy 3y ago
  What is the reason to do this in military training in the first place? Does this train you to handle ptsd better ? Makes you more obedient ? What’s going on there ?
  • tyingq 3y ago
    The rationale I've heard is "weed out people that can't handle high stress and separate them from service very early".
  • 23B1 3y ago
    Stress inoculation.