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Congratulations, you've been working as a baker for 10 years and have perfected the art of making bread. You have now been promoted to butcher.

by Aaargh20318 3y ago

ranguna 3y ago
Hmmmm a butcher would be like a business analyst in the software development world maybe? Both still put they hands on the product, but in completely different perspectives. Maybe a store manager would be more applicable?
- rzzzt 3y ago
  Perhaps a car analogy would clear things up?
- stodor89 3y ago
  I have a friend who got promoted from QA to HR.
  - drewcoo 3y ago
    They say to get a promotion you need to already be acting at the level of your new role. How the heck did that one work?
ddmichael 3y ago
Instead of having been "promoted" to a shepherd?
xbryanx 3y ago
Umm, haven’t you just been promoted to bakery manager?
- irrational 3y ago
  The point is that the jobs are completely different. They require different skill sets.
  - dasil003 3y ago
    It's not a good point though, because one of the important traits of a good engineering manager is that they understand the work of the ICs they are managing (at least to a reasonable depth).
    - irrational 3y ago
      I’ve had many good engineering managers over the decades. None were technical. But they were good because they did have skills in things like running interference for us. In my experience, people skills are far more important than technical skills for good engineering managers.
      - dasil003 3y ago
        I’ve also had a handful of good non-technical managers over the decades, and they succeeded by having trust in the right technical people (for whatever reason, sometimes it may have been luck). What I’ve seen more often is non-technical managers place trust in the wrong people, get taken for a ride, and generally fail to pinpoint problems correctly. You’re right that people skills are more important but they are often necessary but insufficient depending on the specific team and business situation.
        DougBTX 3y ago
        An astonishing number of debates are between one group of people saying “Foo needs A” and another saying “Foo needs B” when really... Foo needs a good helping of A and B.
  - saiya-jin 3y ago
    ... same as bakery manager? And in both cases it helps understanding underlying work, unless you don't just fill forms, organize meetings and chase/yell at people (then you can be easily cut&pasted elsewhere with same great results)
    - 3y ago
FooBarBizBazz 3y ago
Dammit. I was hoping for candlestick-maker.

Congratulations, you've been working as a baker for 10 years and have perfected the art of making bread. You have now been promoted to butcher.

ranguna 3y ago

Hmmmm a butcher would be like a business analyst in the software development world maybe? Both still put they hands on the product, but in completely different perspectives. Maybe a store manager would be more applicable?

rzzzt 3y ago
Perhaps a car analogy would clear things up?
stodor89 3y ago
I have a friend who got promoted from QA to HR.
- drewcoo 3y ago
  They say to get a promotion you need to already be acting at the level of your new role. How the heck did that one work?

ddmichael 3y ago

Instead of having been "promoted" to a shepherd?

xbryanx 3y ago

Umm, haven’t you just been promoted to bakery manager?

irrational 3y ago
The point is that the jobs are completely different. They require different skill sets.
- dasil003 3y ago
  It's not a good point though, because one of the important traits of a good engineering manager is that they understand the work of the ICs they are managing (at least to a reasonable depth).
  - irrational 3y ago
    I’ve had many good engineering managers over the decades. None were technical. But they were good because they did have skills in things like running interference for us. In my experience, people skills are far more important than technical skills for good engineering managers.
    - dasil003 3y ago
      I’ve also had a handful of good non-technical managers over the decades, and they succeeded by having trust in the right technical people (for whatever reason, sometimes it may have been luck). What I’ve seen more often is non-technical managers place trust in the wrong people, get taken for a ride, and generally fail to pinpoint problems correctly. You’re right that people skills are more important but they are often necessary but insufficient depending on the specific team and business situation.
      - DougBTX 3y ago
        An astonishing number of debates are between one group of people saying “Foo needs A” and another saying “Foo needs B” when really... Foo needs a good helping of A and B.
- saiya-jin 3y ago
  ... same as bakery manager? And in both cases it helps understanding underlying work, unless you don't just fill forms, organize meetings and chase/yell at people (then you can be easily cut&pasted elsewhere with same great results)
  - 3y ago

FooBarBizBazz 3y ago

Dammit. I was hoping for candlestick-maker.