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I think it's good security practice to run/install your games under a different user than the one you use for banking. It's a hack, but it's all we can do with
by tormeh 3y ago
I think it's good security practice to run/install your games under a different user than the one you use for banking. It's a hack, but it's all we can do with the dismal state of desktop OSes.
- userbinator 3y agoVMs are normally a better solution for isolation, although with games it's probably better to let them run on the hardware while the sensitive stuff gets its own VMs.
- iueotnmunto 3y agoIf the VM operates under the same privileges than a host, all this does is prevent automated attacks - a savvy attacker can still access the disk image of the guest, in some cases, it might actually be more vulnerable (as disk image access is implicitly a privesc in the context of the VM).
- Springtime 3y agoThe problem with VMs is games that require anti-cheat, which from what I've read from user experiences try to detect and prevent VM usage (not sure about Valve's anti-cheat though).
- _piif 3y agoThe common ones such as EAC, BattlEye and VAC don't prevent you from running the corresponding games in a VM.
- Springtime 3y agoHmm, as I've seen topics like this[1] for EAC, though a comment from a different result[2] mentions EAC can be configured to optionally block VMs so maybe it varies by game. > Today, I purchased and installed Dead by Daylight with the intention of playing with some friends, only to start the game and find a message from Easy Anti-Cheat stating that the game "cannot run under a virtual machine." [1] https://www.reddit.com/r/VFIO/comments/100yqok/bypass_eac_cannot_run_under_virtual_machine_esxi/ https://www.reddit.com/r/VFIO/comments/100yqok/bypass_eac_ca... [2] https://www.reddit.com/r/blackdesertonline/comments/px0flc/virtual_machine_and_eac/hellltc/ https://www.reddit.com/r/blackdesertonline/comments/px0flc/v...
- _piif 3y agoYou are right. I've heard similar stories about BattlEye in the past which I assumed might just have been a decision they've reverted since but could've very well been an option up to game devs to enable. Thankfully not many of them do seemingly.
- Sebb767 3y agoI've been playing only in a VM with GPU passthrough for years now and the online game which made problems was Darktide, but they pushed a fix soon after release to actually allow VMs. I've heard the same from friends using a similar setup. Still anecdotal, I know, but it seems to be a rather small issue.
- veave 3y agoI do all my banking on my iphone. No way I would do banking on a desktop.
- datenyan 3y agoUnfortunately, all it takes is something like Genshin Impact's anti-cheat system - which runs at the kernel / ring 0 level [1] - to be compromised, and then it's game over anyways. Not to mention the potential of "what if the anti-cheat is deliberately programmed to be malicious?". A dismal state all around. [1] https://genshin.hoyoverse.com/en/news/detail/103720 https://genshin.hoyoverse.com/en/news/detail/103720
- DANmode 3y agoBrings an entirely different element of "fun" to every Tencent game.
- sh4rks 3y agoDon't do banking on your gaming PC
- lrem 3y agoWith the companies that don't care about security but require their bugware in ring0? With whole-system memory scans, exfiltration and executing code right off network? I've for a long time kept my gaming PC in physically separate network. While I've relaxed that for practical reasons, can't imagine ever logging into anything I can't trivially burn or recover into a gaming machine.
- thealig 3y agoWhat does banking mean here? Managing bank accounts online in your browser