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I remember still when it was considered a conspiracy theory and we got downvoted here and banned on reddit for even implying the possibility. Unfortunately some

I remember still when it was considered a conspiracy theory and we got downvoted here and banned on reddit for even implying the possibility. Unfortunately something similar is happening with AI x-risk right now.

oneshtein 3y ago
Accusation without evidence is witch-hunting. We still have no strong evidence for lab leak from BSL4 lab in Wuhan, while we have some evidence (two early strains of SARS-CoV-2: A, then B; B was in Wuhan in December; where and when was parent of A and B?) that suggests start of epidemic outside of China in mid-September 2019. Russians start to delete videos about blast at their BSL4 lab "Vector" in Novosibirsk on Sep 16 2019[0], which suggests that this information may cause harm for them. So, "Lab leak" theory may be right, while "lab leak from BSL4 lab in Wuhan" theory may be wrong. [0]: https://web.archive.org/web/20200407175030/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_w7SAeNcXA8 https://web.archive.org/web/20200407175030/https://www.youtu...
- arisAlexis 3y ago
  We are playing with words. Accusation vs possibility vs open to options vs etc. The problem is that it was called which hunting anything that was not natural origin.
jansan 3y ago
Same with pointing out at the first studies that indicated that the virus was airborne. I got downvoted to oblivion here for posting a link to the study.
- th0ma5 3y ago
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- asynchronous 3y ago
  Despite that becoming at least partially true years later when the CDC admitted it.
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th0ma5 3y ago
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asynchronous 3y ago
I won’t forget no matter how many times they try to make me. What happened several years ago was a clown show of the highest order.
tim333 3y ago
I don't think that's true with AI. Loads of people worry about it and I've never heard that called a conspiracy theory. It's true with covid though and I always thought the allegation a bit unfair. I mean suggesting the origin of X is from the nearest source of X has never seemed much of a conspiracy to me. I had long messages on the Wikipedia discussion before they allowed the idea to be mentioned without a this is conspiracy disinformation disclaimer, after many months of fighting.

oneshtein 3y ago

Accusation without evidence is witch-hunting. We still have no strong evidence for lab leak from BSL4 lab in Wuhan, while we have some evidence (two early strains of SARS-CoV-2: A, then B; B was in Wuhan in December; where and when was parent of A and B?) that suggests start of epidemic outside of China in mid-September 2019. Russians start to delete videos about blast at their BSL4 lab "Vector" in Novosibirsk on Sep 16 2019[0], which suggests that this information may cause harm for them. So, "Lab leak" theory may be right, while "lab leak from BSL4 lab in Wuhan" theory may be wrong. [0]: https://web.archive.org/web/20200407175030/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_w7SAeNcXA8 https://web.archive.org/web/20200407175030/https://www.youtu...

arisAlexis 3y ago
We are playing with words. Accusation vs possibility vs open to options vs etc. The problem is that it was called which hunting anything that was not natural origin.

jansan 3y ago

Same with pointing out at the first studies that indicated that the virus was airborne. I got downvoted to oblivion here for posting a link to the study.

th0ma5 3y ago
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asynchronous 3y ago
Despite that becoming at least partially true years later when the CDC admitted it.
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th0ma5 3y ago

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asynchronous 3y ago

I won’t forget no matter how many times they try to make me. What happened several years ago was a clown show of the highest order.

tim333 3y ago

I don't think that's true with AI. Loads of people worry about it and I've never heard that called a conspiracy theory. It's true with covid though and I always thought the allegation a bit unfair. I mean suggesting the origin of X is from the nearest source of X has never seemed much of a conspiracy to me. I had long messages on the Wikipedia discussion before they allowed the idea to be mentioned without a this is conspiracy disinformation disclaimer, after many months of fighting.