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Leaving aside the question of where and how the virus emerged, it's interesting to note that the lab was nigh useless during the pandemic, despite its main spec
by yyyk 3y ago
Leaving aside the question of where and how the virus emerged, it's interesting to note that the lab was nigh useless during the pandemic, despite its main specialty was investigating Coronaviruses! It looks like a lot of dangerous research went on, and even if nothing bad happened because of that research, nothing was gained. A lot of risk for nothing.
- justanotheratom 3y ago"nothing was gained" I see the irony (gain of function)
- lapama 3y agoGain of risk
- brutusborn 3y agoDon’t forget gain of funding
- th0ma5 3y ago[flagged]
- akomtu 3y agoHN should limit the rate of comments per user per post. This user is seriously worked up to mute this discussion and spams in every comment thread. Edit: this user wrote 26 out of 88 comments here.
- th0ma5 3y agoAnd they should ban throwaway accounts too which you can also see spreading more conjecture.
- yorwba 3y agoHN already has a rate limit. You get the message "You're posting too fast" when you exceed it. Though I think it's also tied to karma and might not trigger when all those comments get upvoted. And if you try to downvote them all, you'll run into the protections against mass-downvoting. Tuning the feedback loops to encourage good discussions while damping flamewars is a difficult problem.
- hombre_fatal 3y agoOnce you have some post history, I’m pretty sure the harsh rate limit, the one that would stop someone from posting in every comment thread, is only triggered manually by the mods if you’re a prick (personal experience). The basic new account rate limit and the one you get from getting downvote quickly are too weak to stop what they are complaining about.
- xcv123 3y ago[flagged]
- th0ma5 3y agoThat article says the first thing you said but not the second.
- xcv123 3y ago[flagged]
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- xcv123 3y agoNo it is not an ad hominem attack to say that your argument is childish and stupid. You're not even having a debate. You're just spamming the forum with drivel.
- th0ma5 3y agoI am trying to say that either it leaked or it didn't, but that we'll never know, but that it doesn't matter anyway.
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- calderwoodra 3y agoAre you implying the lab shouldn't have existed at all? And/or future coronavirus labs shouldn't exist either?
- Thorentis 3y agoThey're not implying anything. They're nearly making the observation that the supposed reason this lab existed was to research dangeours viruses like covid, and yet the lab itself did nothing to help during the pandemic.
- wwtdtgotiatl 3y ago> yet the lab itself did nothing to help during the pandemic. Which people in this thread are somehow believing as truth instead of the bald-faced propaganda it is. Do you actually think a virus research lab in the epicentre of an outbreak would not be put to use? From Wikipedia: > As the virus spread worldwide, the institute continued its investigation. In February 2020, a team led by Shi Zhengli at the institute were the first to identify, analyze and name the genetic sequence of the novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV), upload it to public databases for scientists around the world to understand,[28][29][30] and publish papers in Nature.[31] On 19 February 2020, the lab released a letter on its website describing how they successfully obtained the whole virus genome.[32] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wuhan_Institute_of_Virology https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wuhan_Institute_of_Virology
- yyyk 3y agoGene sequencing is table stakes with modern tech, and many countries did that during the pandemic. We don't need a BSL-4 level lab in the middle of a large city to do a gene sequence. It happened that they published early what many other labs would have done (and did do). On the other hand, the vaccines and effective cures had nothing to do with their work. The benefit/risk ratio seems very poor here.
- dendriti 3y ago
- Biorealism 3y agoYes, the whole virus hunting grift that Peter Daszak's EcoHealth Alliance and PREDICT tout has been exposed as ineffective. Now they are doubling down with further funding and blanket denials that it could have come from a lab accident. They never mention the nearest relatives to SARS-CoV-2 are found in Yunnan and Laos. And that happens to be where WIV sampled.
- Manjuuu 3y agoYep. Top notch research.