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I mean... There are references to names, institutions carrying out certain investigations, references to experiments done prior to the pandemic. Yeah, some of i

I mean... There are references to names, institutions carrying out certain investigations, references to experiments done prior to the pandemic. Yeah, some of it can be congecture. Which is why I really want the direct links to data, not just mentions to the events. I'm not sure it's a conspiracy theory. I think it's a legitimate thing to investigate by an international entity like the UN (not the US), and the outcome (if it turns out to be true) should likely be some proportional sanction/payments by China.

th0ma5 3y ago
Sure, but the article is implying there something new that actually would have some kind of bearing or meaning.
- oneshtein 3y ago
  Russians started to clean up evidence, which points to BSL4 lab "Vector". IMHO, this article is a part of their disinformation campaign. The name of their vaccine "Sputnik V" (Follower 5) suggests that there was "Something","Sputnik I", "Sputnik II", "Sputnik III", "Sputnik IV" before "Sputnik V". It's impossible for Russians to produce 5 vaccines in row in such short span of time, just few months, which took billions of dollars and year of time for western companies. IMHO, Russians started developing of their vaccine since SARS-CoV-1 outbreak in 2003.
  - th0ma5 3y ago
    Sounds ominous but also completely devoid of useful explanations, blame, or actionable knowledge.
  - throwbadubadu 3y ago
    It was named after the satellite Sputnik 1 and the V is not a roman five but stands for victory, multiple sources consistently claim? Sounds reasonable that this was just PR propaganda to connect to prior great successes in Russia.. (Even without that knowledge I'd find this theory a bit far fetched, there could be many other good reasons for that naming).
    - oneshtein 3y ago
      "Sputnik" is a regular Russian word, which means "one who travels together with another" (s-put-nik s-=with, -put-=travel/road/journey, -nik=somebody). Victory is Latin word. Russian word for victory is "pobeda" (po-beda po-=after, -beda=bad/something very different from good, "after bad times"). It looks like 5 in the name is from Ad5 component of vaccine. Moreover, the vaccine produced by Vector is called EpiVacCorona[0]. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EpiVacCorona https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EpiVacCorona
  - alpaca128 3y ago
    > The name of their vaccine "Sputnik V" (Follower 5) suggests that there was "Something" No, a regime known for throwing people out of windows if they say one word too much isn't so dumb to hide a hint like that in plain sight.
  - dbtc 3y ago
    Or they had 12 teams working in parallel, competition style, and team 5 won.

th0ma5 3y ago

Sure, but the article is implying there something new that actually would have some kind of bearing or meaning.

oneshtein 3y ago
Russians started to clean up evidence, which points to BSL4 lab "Vector". IMHO, this article is a part of their disinformation campaign. The name of their vaccine "Sputnik V" (Follower 5) suggests that there was "Something","Sputnik I", "Sputnik II", "Sputnik III", "Sputnik IV" before "Sputnik V". It's impossible for Russians to produce 5 vaccines in row in such short span of time, just few months, which took billions of dollars and year of time for western companies. IMHO, Russians started developing of their vaccine since SARS-CoV-1 outbreak in 2003.
- th0ma5 3y ago
  Sounds ominous but also completely devoid of useful explanations, blame, or actionable knowledge.
- throwbadubadu 3y ago
  It was named after the satellite Sputnik 1 and the V is not a roman five but stands for victory, multiple sources consistently claim? Sounds reasonable that this was just PR propaganda to connect to prior great successes in Russia.. (Even without that knowledge I'd find this theory a bit far fetched, there could be many other good reasons for that naming).
  - oneshtein 3y ago
    "Sputnik" is a regular Russian word, which means "one who travels together with another" (s-put-nik s-=with, -put-=travel/road/journey, -nik=somebody). Victory is Latin word. Russian word for victory is "pobeda" (po-beda po-=after, -beda=bad/something very different from good, "after bad times"). It looks like 5 in the name is from Ad5 component of vaccine. Moreover, the vaccine produced by Vector is called EpiVacCorona[0]. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EpiVacCorona https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EpiVacCorona
- alpaca128 3y ago
  > The name of their vaccine "Sputnik V" (Follower 5) suggests that there was "Something" No, a regime known for throwing people out of windows if they say one word too much isn't so dumb to hide a hint like that in plain sight.
- dbtc 3y ago
  Or they had 12 teams working in parallel, competition style, and team 5 won.