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Somewhat related: 1TB optical discs for $3 from Folio Photonics (possible vaporware alert): https://www.techradar.com/news/exclusive-blu-ray-successor-will-cost

by krasin 3y ago

Somewhat related: 1TB optical discs for $3 from Folio Photonics (possible vaporware alert): https://www.techradar.com/news/exclusive-blu-ray-successor-will-cost-dollar1-per-1tb-disc-but-youll-need-a-dollar3000-drive-as-well https://www.techradar.com/news/exclusive-blu-ray-successor-w...

ksec 3y ago
This isn't exactly new, goes back to as far as [1] 2007 on Ars, and they reported something similar from the same startup [2]. I do wish them success though. Even a Single TB disc would be 10 to 40 times the current Blu-Ray. It would be nice if they could do a mini cartridge version ( 6 Folio Mini Disc inside a Cartridge ) like Zip drive with 2TB for consumer. Unless you are a Data Hoarder 99.9% of the consumer could have their own backup down with a few of these cartridge. And in theory they should last a lot longer than HDD or even SSD. Really wish this isn't a pipe dream. [1] https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2007/08/new-dvd-sized-disc-to-hold-terabytes-of-data/ https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2007/08/new-dvd-sized-disc-t... [2] https://www.storagereview.com/news/folio-photonics-working-on-optical-discs-of-the-future https://www.storagereview.com/news/folio-photonics-working-o...
- bunga-bunga 3y ago
  > in theory they should last a lot longer than HDD or even SSD. The etched plastic yes, but I think the reflective layer of CDs and DVDs is highly sensitive to humidity, shortening the lifespan to 10-20 years. You could probably recover it professionally, but not cheaply.
  - krasin 3y ago
    >the reflective layer of CDs and DVDs is highly sensitive to humidity, shortening the lifespan to 10-20 years. this is actually solved for HTL BD-R Blurays as they use inorganic material for storing data. Only the outer plastic is organic there. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray_Disc_recordable https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray_Disc_recordable
Hamuko 3y ago
A $3000 drive sounds surprisingly tempting if it gives me access to 1 TB for only $3 afterwards, assuming that the drives have a decent amount of life to them.

by krasin 3y ago

ksec 3y ago

This isn't exactly new, goes back to as far as [1] 2007 on Ars, and they reported something similar from the same startup [2]. I do wish them success though. Even a Single TB disc would be 10 to 40 times the current Blu-Ray. It would be nice if they could do a mini cartridge version ( 6 Folio Mini Disc inside a Cartridge ) like Zip drive with 2TB for consumer. Unless you are a Data Hoarder 99.9% of the consumer could have their own backup down with a few of these cartridge. And in theory they should last a lot longer than HDD or even SSD. Really wish this isn't a pipe dream. [1] https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2007/08/new-dvd-sized-disc-to-hold-terabytes-of-data/ https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2007/08/new-dvd-sized-disc-t... [2] https://www.storagereview.com/news/folio-photonics-working-on-optical-discs-of-the-future https://www.storagereview.com/news/folio-photonics-working-o...

bunga-bunga 3y ago
> in theory they should last a lot longer than HDD or even SSD. The etched plastic yes, but I think the reflective layer of CDs and DVDs is highly sensitive to humidity, shortening the lifespan to 10-20 years. You could probably recover it professionally, but not cheaply.
- krasin 3y ago
  >the reflective layer of CDs and DVDs is highly sensitive to humidity, shortening the lifespan to 10-20 years. this is actually solved for HTL BD-R Blurays as they use inorganic material for storing data. Only the outer plastic is organic there. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray_Disc_recordable https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray_Disc_recordable

Hamuko 3y ago

A $3000 drive sounds surprisingly tempting if it gives me access to 1 TB for only $3 afterwards, assuming that the drives have a decent amount of life to them.